Tyler1992 2,128 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 7 hours ago, Creyk said: She doesn't have that many hardcore fans anymore. Just look at the activitiy on this site. It is a shred of what it used to be. 7 hours ago, TEANUS said: Oh I don’t remember that. If hardcore means buying tickets to multiple shows, potentially even in different countries, buying multiple versions of one album, I can see that, but I think there’s hundreds of thousands of people globally who would consider themselves hardcore fans I.e. owning most, if not all of her albums, seen the movies, following her on socials, watch her videos, etc. Hell I mean Harlequin sold 16,000 pure copies in the US alone in the first week and that had to have been 95%+ “hardcore” fans buying 1-2 copies each I think Gaga’s at a point where “hardcore fans” have naturally moved on and have grown up with Gaga. The need for validation by means of chart success and consumption for the sake of a win isn’t a priority. The former hardcore fans will still show up to her (sold out) shows and listen to her music, but not feeling the need to court fans into buying multiples, or sacrificing musical integrity for the sake of chart success aligns with the fanbase. Gaga culled a lot of toxic fans when she was no longer on top, and culled even more when she ventured into artistic endeavours that she wanted to pursue. But the toxicity was replaced by fans who admire her work and will show up when it’s important. I want to believe there’s less embarrassment when she gets a critically acclaimed song that’s not a hit, and more people willing to see her live because the music is full of bangers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raivo 138 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago So does streaming on Spotify help? Actually just yesterday I was thinking how I feel like naturally over last week my hype for the Disease ended and I don't put it on purposely. But I'm gonna stream all the versions now, on my way to work Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,021 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, Tyler1992 said: I think Gaga’s at a point where “hardcore fans” have naturally moved on and have grown up with Gaga. The need for validation by means of chart success and consumption for the sake of a win isn’t a priority. The former hardcorCe fans will still show up to her (sold out) shows and listen to her music, but not feeling the need to court fans into buying multiples, or sacrificing musical integrity for the sake of chart success aligns with the fanbase. Gaga culled a lot of toxic fans when she was no longer on top, and culled even more when she ventured into artistic endeavours that she wanted to pursue. But the toxicity was replaced by fans who admire her work and will show up when it’s important. I want to believe there’s less embarrassment when she gets a critically acclaimed song that’s not a hit, and more people willing to see her live because the music is full of bangers. Calling every fan who doesn't share the exact same opinions as you "toxic" is not really productive. Wanting her to make good music is normal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler1992 2,128 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 hours ago, Creyk said: Calling every fan who doesn't share the exact same opinions as you "toxic" is not really productive. Wanting her to make good music is normal. I didn’t 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 20,581 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago On 12/3/2024 at 7:00 PM, TEANUS said: But does anyone ever think maybe if LMs were a little more organized or spent less time b*tching and more time streaming and buying the alt versions it could at least do a little better? Being on the Hot 100 versus not when the new year comes around could be a huge deciding factor in how they handle the rest of the era. When we’re talking about staying in the 70-100 region versus falling off completely it could be decided by a few thousand streams or sales. Disease selling 2k copies when the Poison was launched is FOUL on a “stan” scale Im not saying we need to be as worried or “obsessed” or rabid as we used to be or as Swifties, Barbz, K-Pop stans, etc. are nor do I expect that 15 years in, but it’s very hypocritical when fans want more content then don’t consume it lol Any product or service needs to be sold by the seller. Whether it’s a movie, a bottle of soda or a haircut. You introduce what you sell to the public, defend it with passion/conviction/visibility. It doesn’t work the other way around. You don’t buy a product in order to hopefully get the seller to prove you it’s worth it. Also, I’m pretty sure 90% of the fans have done their job already and keep doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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