Nemo 4,414 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 I fully expected this (after the election) and totally support it. And I don't want to hear **** about it after Trump pardoned Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, etc., etc. (real criminals / traitors). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,887 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 59 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Yet another reason for independents to distrust ‘hypocritical’ Dems I don't know if anyone cares very much about what the elusive independents think after this past election. Except maybe the other independents lol This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster647 447 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 I am so surprised that the American president even has the power to unilaterally overrule the judiciary system like that. That's so undemocratic, like no separation of powers? America should bring more democracy to itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 reading the comments on these threads is sad sometimes. we truly live in an echo chamber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,853 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Not this… Yet another reason for independents to distrust ‘hypocritical’ Dems. But sure whatever lemme just roll my eyes. There are bigger fish to fry The GOP is built on hypocrisy and independents don’t bat an eye. Morality and integrity are clearly not voting issues for swing voters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 65,676 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Yet another reason for independents to distrust ‘hypocritical’ Dems. And vote for another felon, I am sorry- what's happening again? READ MY...BODY LANGUAGE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,887 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 33 minutes ago, Monster647 said: I am so surprised that the American president even has the power to unilaterally overrule the judiciary system like that. That's so undemocratic, like no separation of powers? America should bring more democracy to itself I agree a more plainly democratic system would be best. Starting with the abolition of the electoral college. But presidents can only pardon federal crimes since they're at the top of the executive branch. They have no say over state convictions (until Trump changes that so he can pardon himself of his 30+ felonies ofc) This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 37,452 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 As he should, protecting his family from the incoming weaponization of the judicial system. The man is old, he doesn't want his son to suffer just because his last name is biden. It looks bad going back on his word but i feel like this is 100% warranted. The melody that you choose can rescue you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,967 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Monster647 said: I am so surprised that the American president even has the power to unilaterally overrule the judiciary system like that. That's so undemocratic, like no separation of powers? America should bring more democracy to itself It's a check on the Judiciary, but I do agree that these blanket pardons are overpowered This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilboyblue 6,041 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Not this… Yet another reason for independents to distrust ‘hypocritical’ Dems. But sure whatever lemme just roll my eyes. There are bigger fish to fry Republicans do much worse and never get any comeuppance. If anything, Dems should normalize the idea that they too can play dirty, so they can get rid of daggers hanging over them all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: I don't know if anyone cares very much about what the elusive independents think after this past election. Except maybe the other independents lol What ☠️ Dems aren’t winning ever again without them. Yall are allowed to tune out and recover before you. wanna rejoin the fight not caring about satisfying voters is wild Problem is most libs think independents are lost Liz Cheney republicans “in the middle” 1 hour ago, SpadesToStart said: The GOP is built on hypocrisy and independents don’t bat an eye. Morality and integrity are clearly not voting issues for swing voters. 1 hour ago, Anveeroy said: And vote for another felon, I am sorry- what's happening again? I said there are bigger fish for this reason: deliver a strong vision for the people and voters will forgive almost everything, apparently. Kamala just didn’t succeed at doing that, for many reasons. I’m not that angry at her she was set tf up for years ☠️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,375 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, SpadesToStart said: The GOP is built on hypocrisy and independents don’t bat an eye. Morality and integrity are clearly not voting issues for swing voters. I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face: Americans vote with their feelings, not their brains. Perception is everything. Reality is meaningless. This doesn't matter either way politically. Some people are just ready to criticize any/everything a Democrat does while staying mute on the actual people stripping us of our rights and security. Hence why the left pisses me off. They're self defeating and dragging us all down. America just elected a practical Nazi and some of them are celebrating that a center-left moderate lost and continuing to badger the lame duck sitting president when he protects his son from charges that would usually not even be met with jail time for an average citizen. It was the same garbage in 2016 when Trump first won. It was like the leftists took a victory lap 'cause Clinton lost after Bernie lost to her as if certain human rights weren't just set back 50 years for an entire generation (THEIR GENERATION). The petulance of it all tbh. The real dichotomy in this country is people with minds so closed their brains have suffocated and died vs people with minds so open their brains have fallen out and splattered all over the pavement. And the rest of us are here somewhere in the middle dealing with the consequences of immovable objects (bigotry, stupidity) getting hit by unstoppable objects (ego, purity tests). just sick of it I stg. We saw what happens when leftists actually join the coalition. Biden's policies were pushed left, we got so many progressive wins. So I don't get why they force Democrats to punch both ways during and after elections when Republicans keep winning and hurting us. Nobody quote me, I'm not debating, I just needed to bitch for a second. Lmao this post if you disagree and save your time. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 11 minutes ago, lilboyblue said: Republicans do much worse and never get any comeuppance. If anything, Dems should normalize the idea that they too can play dirty, so they can get rid of daggers hanging over them all the time. I agree but they should play dirty in order to get impactful things people can feel - done. Not cry about the Parliamentarian or Joe Manchin. I just cringed bc Biden made a big deal out of not pardoning him to own the republicans and now he’s directly reversing on it It’s just another hurdle to get over when trying to claw back american’s trust but a SMALL one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,887 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 29 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Dems aren’t winning ever again without them. They aren't concerned about winning imo. They're comfy being the morally superior losers. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: They aren't concerned about winning imo. They're comfy being the morally superior losers. Lmao well those types needs to be kicked out of power in the party bc we dont need a JD Vance presidency like ever I hope the DNC leadership race doesn’t install Rahm Emanuel or anyone who thinks just like him. At least Nancy and Hakeem will have fun spamming america w dono emails for the next 4 years ☠️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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