gagalovesme 2 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 woo, go starlight, always sticking up for her bezzie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryTheNight 35 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 She seems really sweet and a genuine friend of Gaga's! Too bad i hated her opening of the BTWB :eww: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope 15 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 "Not to speak disparagingly of Justin Bieber or Rihanna, but they’re not so hands-on with their image or their sound. They don’t write the music. They have people doing things for them. Whereas Gaga is more like a Bowie. Gaga is a real musician, and a real artist. Her thing is the creative process – she’s involved in everything. She’s pop, but, in a way, she’s more like a rock-and-roll act." Nothing she said was even remotely offensive. It was factual. The only reason I could see this statement rubbing certain types of people the wrong way is the fact that she called Gaga a "real artist". Her credibility as a real artist and a real musician to some fans or ex-fans is now questionable. To me if you look at it objectively, it is not, despite the fact that I preferred her aesthetic during The Fame rather than Born This Way. I agree completely with Lady Starlights comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Hardly shade, but w/e. Good interview though, I like Starlight :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo 327 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 She's kind of right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope 15 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Agreed. She does not heavily contribute to the songwriting process for the past albums or so as her label is seemed focus to generate hits as many as possible, hence not arguably allowing her enough time to actually write her own material. But when Starlight said that they, implying Rihanna and JB, do not write their music, it somehow misleads the fact that Rihanna actually did. Well to me shes like the black Britney Spears, but the difference between her and Britney is that she has the confidence and the attitude to stand her ground and say 'no' if she wants to, she shines through in her album a little more than Britney because of her attitude. Its not really hands on but of course shes still involved. But see to me the difference between her and Gaga is that, for instance, nothing about We Found Love is really Rihanna. Its a Calvin Harris song through and through. You know? Often times with Gaga its not like that, she makes sure her **** is her own. Idk....I don't like comparing artists either. But what she said in this interview wasn't in the least bit offensive in my opinion. It was truthful without being disrespectful. Rihanna still holds her own, despite having a team of people crafting her to be a Top 40 shoe-in. Theres a place for a pop artist like her in the industry and shes on the top. What I like so much about Unapologetic is how obviously reflective it is of where shes at in her life right now. Even though her name isn't credited to much of the album, its obvious shes really coming into her own as a pop star. She shone through in this album, just as she did in Rated R. Shows promise. But shes still very obviously committed to being that kind of a pop star though....so idk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Well whatever, it's not like Gaga didn't got handed things to her. And Rihanna works hard too u guys, she had a very very tight schedule for the Loud tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope 15 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Well whatever, it's not like Gaga didn't got handed things to her. And Rihanna works hard too u guys, she had a very very tight schedule for the Loud tour. :roll: :fail: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthagio 113 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Why are Gaga's companions always the ones to speak up about other celebrities, while Gaga doesn't say ****? Because she doesn't bad mouth people in public. Her friends aren't famous, so they can get away with being dicks. Gaga cannot. Well whatever, it's not like Gaga didn't got handed things to her. And Rihanna works hard too u guys, she had a very very tight schedule for the Loud tour. Yeah, it's very difficult watching people write, compose, and produce for you. :'((( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I thought I did my research correctly lol but I guess not. Point is Rated R probably had much more input from her in the creative process of writing, The exception that proves the rule. The one R album where she had more than one year turnaround time, and where the lead single kind of struggled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,067 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Lady Starlight is always speaking so much truth. Yes, I like this girl very much. Very wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowgynous 0 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Always when I think I can't love this woman more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,266 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Days 7 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 With the shows Starlight puts on I don't think she will ever be a successful artist. :wtf: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Didn't Gaga get dropped from Def Jam? Because they didn't understand her vision? In other words, because they didn't let her be so hands-on in her creative vision......... That's true. But it should also be noted that the senior management of Def Jam before, when Gaga got dropped, is different with the senior management of Island Def Jam now, after L.A. Reid's transfer to rival Sony Music Group. And the label's heavy interference to the imaging of an artist is not only solely limited to Island Def Jam per se (or the entire Universal Music Group which Gaga is part of), but it's also prevalent over the entire music industry. Well the interviewer DID ask the question. And honestly did she lie? They dont create their product. It's done for them. Maybe she should have just said next question and left it at that, but I can understand how aggravating it would be getting criticized constantly, while others that just sit back, ride on the backs of other more talented people, and let their face sell their stuff and make them millions could wear on someone. Thats the biggest problem with music nowadays. The fact that Biebers, Rihannas, Katys etc. are even in the industry is a testament to just how far gone music has become. Its more about whos attractive, rather than who actually can create something worth listening to. So I personally dont think either Bieber or Rihanna are honestly artists, and I wish the music industry would finally call them on it. Defining and measuring one's artistry is arguably subjective. And I do respect your opinion with regard to that. Well to me shes like the black Britney Spears, but the difference between her and Britney is that she has the confidence and the attitude to stand her ground and say 'no' if she wants to, she shines through in her album a little more than Britney because of her attitude. Its not really hands on but of course shes still involved. But see to me the difference between her and Gaga is that, for instance, nothing about We Found Love is really Rihanna. Its a Calvin Harris song through and through. You know? Often times with Gaga its not like that, she makes sure her **** is her own. Idk....I don't like comparing artists either. But what she said in this interview wasn't in the least bit offensive in my opinion. It was truthful without being disrespectful. Rihanna still holds her own, despite having a team of people crafting her to be a Top 40 shoe-in. Theres a place for a pop artist like her in the industry and shes on the top. What I like so much about Unapologetic is how obviously reflective it is of where shes at in her life right now. Even though her name isn't credited to much of the album, its obvious shes really coming into her own as a pop star. She shone through in this album, just as she did in Rated R. Shows promise. But shes still very obviously committed to being that kind of a pop star though....so idk. There's a clear difference between Gaga and Rihanna (or the rest of the pop stars these days for that matter). Among them would be the magnitude of her involvement to whatever she does. And it's also one of the reasons why I support Gaga more than anyone else in the music industry. Her commitment and passion shows off immensely on her works. On one hand, I'm also enthusiastic with the efforts of Rihanna to improve her own craft, even in her own little ways. As for Starlight's comment, I guess it really varies to one's interpretation at the end of the day. It was very much respectful, I have to agree, as shown with her opening statement. I applaud her for that. But there's still a part of me that strongly thinks that the "real artist" argument is unnecessary to say the least. Because to measure one's "authenticity" as a musician is highly debatable. Some elitists would argue that the artists like Adele are the ones who are considered making "real music" and those who rely on theatrics and aesthetics are merely manufactured pop acts. Some would argue that the rock bands are the ones who's giving the world a taste of what's "real music" and those outside their genre are being unfairly looked down. Others would like to point out that those who make jazz music are the "real" musicians. And the debate goes on and on. What I'm trying to say is that it seems it's implausible for everyone to give a uniform definition of the terms "real music" and "real artists" to an extent I wonder if there's such a need for that to begin with. I mean, does anyone really need to label an artist's genuineness? :shrug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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