AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,976 Posted September 30, 2024 Share Posted September 30, 2024 3 hours ago, Foxyy said: I don't know that I've seen white people being blamed for any negative feelings around Harris' candidacy. The only time I see the word "privilege" thrown around is when leftists spend more time criticizing Kamala Harris than they do trying to make sure Donald Trump isn't elected. They care more about having a pure candidate than averting total disaster which is absolutely a position of privilege. It's a "college kid who spends too much time online" problem. Not a white people problem. If you want to talk about racial identities, a lot of hispanic and latino cultures are very religious and conservative by nature. You can see here that Trump is pulling Bush level numbers and 2004 was an excruciatingly close election that came down to a state with a large hispanic population. Also note that much of Bush's support was out of Texas which is a state that Trump is rapidly losing ground in. Now consider that this poll is polluted with bad data (see my post above, 11% of respondents are white europeans) and that the winning route for Kamala is through states with mostly white and black voting populations, with whom she is doing well, especially with women, and I'm not too concerned by it. I've seen it a few times across social media when people want to criticize some of Kamala's stances and policies. That white people are ignorant because the question should just be right and wrong this election cycle. That POC don't get the luxury or criticizing Kamala because Trump is gonna take their rights, and that white people then seem to have a choice because they won't lose rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,092 Posted September 30, 2024 Share Posted September 30, 2024 6 hours ago, Bronco said: It's not surprising that Trump is doing better with Latino voters/Republicans are also doing better with Latino voters. They've toned down a lot of the overt racism about the border in regards to latino people. And it's not exactly a new trend in any country for settled and assimilated immigrants to be anti-immigration especially if they arrived via legal means. There's a known trend of "they mean the other immigrant" very similar to log cabin republicans believing they're only saying "god hates those f*gs". Plus a lot of people who moved or fled to America fled countries like Cuba/Venezuela and are often anti-socialist as a result. So naturally they end up supporting the party that echoes that line and Trump's presidency saw a reversal of the Cuban thaw - partly why he has reduced Florida's likelihood to swing at election time. This but I don’t think the GOP toned the rhetoric down, they just got mad at more things so the ire feels more watered down lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,180 Posted September 30, 2024 Share Posted September 30, 2024 6 hours ago, Lucas said: Crazy that anyone non white and non straight can support Trump I’ve met so many POCs in real life that literally have such a huge hatred for their communities, it’s crazy. A handful of my relatives (who are legal immigrants) constantly spew racist sh*t against “illegal” immigrants just because it makes them feel superior. It’s so gross, I can’t even go to certain family gatherings cause I literally just end up leaving pissed off lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,902 Posted September 30, 2024 Share Posted September 30, 2024 10 hours ago, Emvee said: It’s a little condescending to suggest that upper class Latinos somehow owe an allegiance to other immigrants or poor people. As if Latinos will forever be inherently “other” or “poor”. Honestly I don't think it's even a class thing. Even working class legal immigrants or 2nd/3rd gen children of immigrants who are working/middle class have shown a degree of not empathising with other immigrants - especially when the far right has effectively built a narrative now that every single *new* immigrant is illegal. The gays know how to party Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted September 30, 2024 Share Posted September 30, 2024 Predictable given that the Democrats don't have a good platform regarding immigrants. All of Kamala Harris's virtue-signaling on the border issue has definitely hurt her popularity in this regard. Trump has nothing either, but that, combined with the racism that migrants suffer every day, makes things worse. The US is very obsessed with dividing its population into well-defined racial boxes, and that's often not the most convenient thing to do, humanistically speaking. Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,341 Posted October 1, 2024 Share Posted October 1, 2024 21 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: I’ve met so many POCs in real life that literally have such a huge hatred for their communities, it’s crazy. A handful of my relatives (who are legal immigrants) constantly spew racist sh*t against “illegal” immigrants just because it makes them feel superior. It’s so gross, I can’t even go to certain family gatherings cause I literally just end up leaving pissed off lol I feel like everyone does it, including white people. Ive seen alot of white people make fun of white people in a racist way assuming I was gonna agree with them, and it always ends awkwardly. And all racists have their arguments and excuses to why their racism is justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoj305 3,774 Posted October 1, 2024 Share Posted October 1, 2024 republicans are better at propaganda than the dnc is.... everyone in miami (especially cubans) thinks kamala and biden are communists because the rnc has been drilling that into their heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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