Defmix100 5,932 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, RenegAde said: Fair but why is everyone in this thread making it seem like it is such an overreaction for people to feel disappointed that a product is truly not the way it was marketed What if it is the way it's marketed though? Unless did it originally say that she was a co-lead (I don't remember)? A good comparison might be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I see it as both Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt's movie, they both are in so much of the trailers and are the same size on the posters but DiCaprio was nominated for best actor and Pitt was nominated for and won supporting actor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrion Rizzons 10,273 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Can't wait to see ariana and Gaga together at the awards ceremonies 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo 4,193 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, Bolkins said: I can only imagine that Joaquin’s meddling changed the direction of the film in post production which is a shame. 2 hours ago, Gardevoir said: It’s frustrating if they really wanted her to be the main and then afterwards they cut her parts so that her role would be much less significant. If I was her I would probably be pissed. Let's not make up stuff to be mad about. 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolkins 4,073 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Nemo said: Let's not make up stuff to be mad about. I'm just theorizing, I aint mad! Not the bore worms! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo 583 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 18 minutes ago, Mirrion Rizzons said: Can't wait to see ariana and Gaga together at the awards ceremonies Hide the fiancé away from Ariana!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernEcstasy 8,270 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I seriously hope that those people who are complaining actually help to support this movie. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TortureMeOnReplay 5,784 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Cpeer said: Y’all acting like the Oscar wouldn’t be worth it if she wins it lol an Oscar is an Oscar The interesting thing to me in all of this is how we're okay minimizing women's roles in films a year after the Barbie movie. 1 hour ago, TEETHTEETH said: The movie is called Joker. (Not Harley) OBVIOUSLY she has the supporting role. In comparison to what that means in other movies look at Ariana in Wicked. Glenda’s role is very much prevalent and significant yet she also is supporting. Must everything be awful for y’all? It was always very obvious when Gaga led the film announcement on her socials. It was sooo obvious when all the key art aside from character key art featured both her and Joaquin equally. The film is called Joker: Folie à deux, or Joker Madness of Two. FaD also refers to shared psychosis. It's not obvious at all that she wasn't considered a co-lead, because it was never meant to be obvious to begin with. The main character(s) are drive the story itself and the focus of the story. They're behind the themes of the story being told. Ariana is not comparable in this scenario because she is not the force behind the theme, although she is a literary device to build the story. Glinda in Wicked is the foil to Elphaba, a character designed to contrast the main character and highlight how different the two are. Lee, from the marketing, moves in the same direction, at the same place, with the same goals and thoughts, as Joker throughout the marketing. The entire thing is sold as a convergence of the two characters to drive the theme of the film. Y'all are fighting to defend this when the studio intended for it all to look like this. It's disingenuous. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 5,960 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) But why would either a lead or supporting submission automatically boost her chances? It's about the competition right? All the awards contenders movies aren't out yet so the sup' actress race may be harder to win than the lead one eventually. Edited September 18 by Guillaume Hamon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takox 275 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I think supporting is a better choice because it is a less competitive category so Gaga has a better chance there. See the world with me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSine 6,090 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) Watch Birds of Prey if you want a harley quinn based movie. Edited September 18 by TheSine "👁 Hate U" 💜🩷🩵 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,436 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 sorry guys, it's probably not going to happen, the movie is currently out of the Oscar conversation 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanDante 5,845 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 19 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said: But why would either a lead or supporting submission automatically boost her chances? It's about the competition right? All the awards contenders movies aren't out yet so the sup' actress race may be harder to win than the lead one eventually. Supporting boosts her chances because the competition is very weak this year for supporting. Zoe Saldana and Selena are on top of every prediction list and they are from the same movie. A lot of actors do category fraud and submit for supporting so that it ensures them winning despite them having a lead role. But in this case, its probably due to Gaga's screentime that she will be delegated to supporting. I'm not very good with Social Mediaᵀᴹ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrion Rizzons 10,273 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 23 minutes ago, TortureMeOnReplay said: The interesting thing to me in all of this is how we're okay minimizing women's roles in films a year after the Barbie movie. It was always very obvious when Gaga led the film announcement on her socials. It was sooo obvious when all the key art aside from character key art featured both her and Joaquin equally. The film is called Joker: Folie à deux, or Joker Madness of Two. FaD also refers to shared psychosis. It's not obvious at all that she wasn't considered a co-lead, because it was never meant to be obvious to begin with. The main character(s) are drive the story itself and the focus of the story. They're behind the themes of the story being told. Ariana is not comparable in this scenario because she is not the force behind the theme, although she is a literary device to build the story. Glinda in Wicked is the foil to Elphaba, a character designed to contrast the main character and highlight how different the two are. Lee, from the marketing, moves in the same direction, at the same place, with the same goals and thoughts, as Joker throughout the marketing. The entire thing is sold as a convergence of the two characters to drive the theme of the film. Y'all are fighting to defend this when the studio intended for it all to look like this. It's disingenuous. Yeah but it seems like the movie is from HIS perspective, not harley's. So even though the characters are similar, the focus will be on how the relationship with harley influences him and his decisions in the film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessun Dorma 2,365 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 At first I thought Lee was a major character, but since the reviews popped up, it’s pretty clear that Gaga has a supporting role. So supporting actress makes total sense and I’ll be very happy if she gets a nomination! All of her scenes so far were breathtaking and I’m sure her performance will be memorable, even if she’s not the leading actress! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisapillar 8,181 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, InTheCloset said: She actually is. The promo for her movie is far better. Plus she has started saying that she dyed her hair and eyebrows to get away drom her pop persona and bring glinda to life. So they are campaigning well Ariana will not be nominated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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