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Auralegends
3 hours ago, monketsharona said:

No shade so Shallow but I'm 100% certain that if they cared promoting ARUTW as an official single WW, it would gone far bigger than Shallow 

This... without promo ARUTW is a worldwide hit. If she would've performed it live a few times and they made it an official single it would've been her biggest song to date. I think it was only a promo single in the end?

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26 minutes ago, Auralegends said:

This... without promo ARUTW is a worldwide hit. If she would've performed it live a few times and they made it an official single it would've been her biggest song to date. I think it was only a promo single in the end?

ARUTW was a radio single in some countries but NOT in the USA. It deserved to be a US single tho as Spotify streams proved it is a hit. Even iTunes USA has ARUTW higher than Shallow in 2024.

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19 minutes ago, Auralegends said:

This... without promo ARUTW is a worldwide hit. If she would've performed it live a few times and they made it an official single it would've been her biggest song to date. I think it was only a promo single in

I’m not sure there’s a true definition of a “promo single” these days. In the digital era, it referred to tracks released to iTunes / online retailers without Radio, most commonly prior to album release (Hair, Venus, A-YO, Sour Candy).

People will sometimes argue that a song added to TTH or performed on a show is suddenly a “promo single,” but that’s silly. That’s promotion, sure, but doesn’t make a song a single. 

ARUTW was not a promo single, and was not a single at all in the U.S. / WW. It was not released prior to the album or as a physical standalone single at any point. It was serviced to French (and possibly Italian) Radio as the 2nd single after Shallow, making it a single in those limited territories only (Eh Eh, Dance In The Dark).

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16 minutes ago, gerrygaga said:

ARUTW was a radio single in some countries but NOT in the USA. It deserved to be a US single tho as Spotify streams proved it is a hit. Even iTunes USA has ARUTW higher than Shallow in 2024.

I can only guess at one point, LG6 was scheduled earlier and there was concern re: overexposing Gaga if ASIB bled into LG6. As it were, ARUTW would’ve been released around March 15 2019, so it could’ve been risky with a lead single released around fall 2019 since HAC/AC Radio takes a long time to turn over songs. Gaga or Interscope may have also felt 1 single was more than enough to commit to knowing a studio album was coming shortly after.

Otherwise, I think people speculate it had to do with Awards campaigning (focusing on Shallow only for the Song Oscar and to highlight her acting), but by March, that would’ve been moot. The Oscars hype already helped propel Shallow to #1 and ARUTW reentered the Hot 100.

I don’t know if it’d have gone Top 10 in the U.S., though, since Spotify playlisting was different then, but with HAC/AC Radio + ~1-1.5M/daily streams, a top 20 peak and 20 weeks would’ve been a big help toward ASIBs Grammy chances for AOTY and given Gaga an even bigger ballad for future tours.

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KennyRichie
4 hours ago, monketsharona said:

ARUTW is now Gaga' 4th most popular song on Spotify, passing Shallow. 

Just Dance will also probably pass Shallow soon

Finally the enemy is defeated

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4 hours ago, JustTea said:

Not the sneak :air:

UGC doesn't count for Billboard :bear:

And YouTube streams aren't nearly as impactful as Spotify/AM/Tidal/etc. streams :alsemanche:

I think it does as long as it’s registered to the official song! Maybe I’m wrong! Definitely certs though

Also YouTube streams impact > No streams impact :vegas:

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1 hour ago, Auralegends said:

This... without promo ARUTW is a worldwide hit. If she would've performed it live a few times and they made it an official single it would've been her biggest song to date. I think it was only a promo single in the end?

Without promo? ASIB movie was huge and a worldwide hit, so millions of people around the world could listen to ARUTW (and they continue to do so cause almost everybody knows that movie). And that alone is way more promo than late shows lives where maybe only a few americans will watch (to give an example)

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@JustTea I think (based on a Reddit thread) that UGC on social media does not count but UGC on YouTube does because of the content ID copyright system. And I think it has to include at least either 30 seconds or 1 minute of the OG song or an official remix

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US Spotify 

#9 (+1) Die with a Smile - 1,522,194

DWAS would be #1 without all the Christmas Songs. I‘m so excited for Next week :excited:

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