CookieHWilson 509 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 5 hours ago, Spanish Eyes said: God that acoustic Disease performance was incredible. She really put her music school training into that composition. I doubt it's gonna win over more listeners, but oh well. If the quality of the music is top notch, I think that matters a lot. It's far worse to underperform/flop with bland, empty music (a la Katy Perry). I do believe there's dignity in sticking with your convictions if the song is truly well-made, and Disease is by far her most harmonically interesting song ever. Plus, idk if y'all remember Stan-wars.com? They have an excellent analysis on how Stans don't actually run things. Like, we fill up the first few rows at concerts and we inflate first week sales, but at the end of the day, all pop artists need GP support and outreach, which is why I think streaming parties aren't the best idea. Lovely post i think she really set the bar where she want it to be this time. nobody ever did this she is like Tori Amos during the 90s i think we are in for a different treat this time which is absolutely what we need to have her free and at her best nonsequitur 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Fall 3,773 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 1 hour ago, vertigostick said: I think it’s now safe to say Disease has been a flop The new version doesn’t seem to change anything, streaming numbers are not growing anymore and the Youtube views are terrible, it seems like it will take ages to reach 20m views Our only hope is that another performance with the pop/single version sometimes in the next 2 or 3 weeks goes viral in a major, surprising turn of event… Then the song might have a chance to climb back up the charts in January… But it seems quite unlikely at this point… Is the underperformance of Disease going to hurt the launch of LG7? I’m not sure… If the next single smashes, it shouldn’t be a problem. But if single number 2 performs as bad (or worse) as Disease, then it will be a wild mess. It must be really exausting to think about this stuff all the time. The majority of people listen to music for enyoyment and I care more about the positive critical reception Disease got anyway Hey, I'm king of the world, you ought to hear my song, you come on measure me, I'm twenty inches long 2 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 509 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 5 hours ago, monketsharona said: In all honestly I would be very fine if LG7 is a cult album served for fans only. It's not as if she has not done many GP attempts over the last decade. If only fans would spend more time enjoying the return to her inner roots instead of crying over numbers. This LG7 would be more enjoyable for everyone tbh I kinda hope she'll get a decent hit only for complainers to stfu. She could 3 streams daily that wouldn't change how much Disease is incredible I hope it’s a cult album for her to herself which is what art is supposed to be no pressure from the world just translate the world and your feeling and make something out of it see how Lana changed her prospective with her last 4 albums nonsequitur 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Fall 3,773 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CookieHWilson said: I hope it’s a cult album for her to herself which is what art is supposed to be no pressure from the world just translate the world and your feeling and make something out of it see how Lana changed her prospective with her last 4 albums Unfortunately I think that Gaga is too big of a mainstream name for her albums to garner cult attention. People still put ridiculous expectations on her despite the fact she is a living legend with nothing to prove at this point Edited November 14 by King of the Fall Hey, I'm king of the world, you ought to hear my song, you come on measure me, I'm twenty inches long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 509 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 1 hour ago, vertigostick said: I think it’s now safe to say Disease has been a flop The new version doesn’t seem to change anything, streaming numbers are not growing anymore and the Youtube views are terrible, it seems like it will take ages to reach 20m views Our only hope is that another performance with the pop/single version sometimes in the next 2 or 3 weeks goes viral in a major, surprising turn of event… Then the song might have a chance to climb back up the charts in January… But it seems quite unlikely at this point… Is the underperformance of Disease going to hurt the launch of LG7? I’m not sure… If the next single smashes, it shouldn’t be a problem. But if single number 2 performs as bad (or worse) as Disease, then it will be a wild mess. Bye nonsequitur 1 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 509 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 27 minutes ago, Monsterclaw said: So, I’ve consulted with my straightest bestie( she listens to Travis Scott, bless her ears) and she obviously heard the song cause she is friends with me and she likes it a lot, but she also told that from her pov disease is not doing that good because almost nobody knows about it in the first place. so they really should pull a sabrina if they want it to become a hit( autoplay, payola etc etc) or maybe this was a little treat for the gays and the slayage begins next year Or maybe she just wants to put out music the old way and see what happens she is in a position in which she can thinking this will be her last album for a while …. I dunno yest I was watching the Antidote version on you tube and I felt like I saw her for the first time if you get what I mean nonsequitur 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 51,500 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Lowkey I'd like her to go a bit less mainstream and losing a part of her trash success ***** fanbase tbh I would love her to push a Lana Del Rey / Charli XCX and doing great with a faithful base and just doing music she loves and believe in. Those passionate artists are always the ones getting the praises. The press reviews feedback from Disease are showing tbh 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 509 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 9 minutes ago, King of the Fall said: Unfortunately I think that Gaga is too big of a mainstream name for her albums to garner cult attention. People still put ridiculous expectations on her despite the fact she is a living legend with nothing to prove at this point This is true but we have two outcomes from this one is the chart results one is the critic result she is a legend. i think and she said it in interviews so many times that she used pop to get to where she wanted to be: to express herself freely through music now if she sets herself free from the pop machine rules she will make the change to pop start/entertainer to an artist many female artist had to compromise in order to deliver their best look at Tori Amos, Lana Del Rey, Annie Lennox i just care about the music it may sound silly but that’s the truth when I got to love Gaga in the first place I did not know any of the chart position of her single. I was too busy studying her art nonsequitur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpeer 1,780 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 57 minutes ago, monketsharona said: Lady Gaga's second singles are always doing better since BTW anyway : - Judas was meant to be her Bad Romance 2.0. And even if it underperfored first, it’s now one of her strongest streaming hit right now, crashing BTW song daily numbers. - DWUW was meant to be far more commercial and before controversies happened it was actually performing better in reviews and streams than Applause. Cancelling Venus as single btw. - Millions Reason was a very slow burner but ended up being one of her biggest recent solo hit songs. Making PI a joke in charts. - ROM crashed SL as a hit, like not even a surprise. She bet everything from Chromatica's campaign on this song. I could totally see Gaga relaunching LG7 eras with bigger promo and new single early 2025 when Christmas freeze will be over. That is not only for Gaga It’s a common practice in the industry for established artists. Record labels prefer to release not the strongest song as the lead because - it will generally get the most promo and hype since it’s the lead. So even a “weaker” song SHOULD end up being a hit since you slot so many promo spots. If it flops really hard you can always say it was a buzz single. The second single is usually the one that label and artist think is the strongest from a commercial standpoint so it can be a hit even with less promo spots than the lead single. and by that time usually is the album already out so you kinda can see the reception and choose the 3rd and so on. Of course with like almost everything now, streaming changed the game so we have examples where artists release the whole album and the public kinda chooses the lead. ( Here comes Billie mostly on my mind as an example). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyane 1,505 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 so finally the US radio update for today: 8 (=) Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile 55.63 (+0.28) - about 1.3M from # 7 (eddy Swims - Lose Control) 71 (=) Lady Gaga - Disease 14.41 (+0.23) - only 0.1M from #70 (Sabrina Carpenter - Bed Chem) - we can take her down tomorrow. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyane 1,505 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 33 minutes ago, Cpeer said: The second single is usually the one that label and artist think is the strongest from a commercial standpoint so it can be a hit even with less promo spots than the lead single. And also artists need a very strong second single because it drives the album sale ! That's why second lead is usually the strongest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loathereality 24,966 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 https://x.com/popcrave/status/1857209467001069855?s=46 ugh yess the choreo is on tiktok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFilm 6,893 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Omg. How did the acoustic version of Disease only debut with 40,000 plays on Spotify.... Twitter: @ConnorBehrens/Instagram: @ConnorBehrens 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loathereality 24,966 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 24 minutes ago, ConnorFilm said: Omg. How did the acoustic version of Disease only debut with 40,000 plays on Spotify.... partial day? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loathereality 24,966 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Spotify - Peak Listeners Bruno Mars 132,004,550 The Weeknd 120,693,473 Taylor Swift 116,229,071 Lady Gaga 114,238,038 gap is only 2m! When disease becomes a hit we’ll be top 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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