Morphine Prince 109,712 Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Oak 7,761 Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Interesting how in the first quote Israel is victimised and yet later it has the upper hand, with the US, to "provide much needed relief to the Palestinian people". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 54,011 Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mr Oak said: Interesting how in the first quote Israel is victimised and yet later it has the upper hand, with the US, to "provide much needed relief to the Palestinian people". Really no inconsistency here whatsoever. The statement explicitly about Israel’s right to defend itself includes the caveat “how it [defends itself] matters.” What she’s saying is that Israel’s response to October 7th has been disproportionate. Pretty common sense stuff imo. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Oak 7,761 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 12 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Really no inconsistency here whatsoever. The statement explicitly about Israel’s right to defend itself includes the caveat “how it [defends itself] matters.” What she’s saying is that Israel’s response to October 7th has been disproportionate. Pretty common sense stuff imo. The words she chose show the inconsistency as it is not defending but plain attacking that they do. It is not defense when there are dead children, schools and hospitals destroyed eight months after October 7th. She does have to keep up with US politics though so her statement is expected ig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 54,011 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mr Oak said: The words she chose show the inconsistency as it is not defending but plain attacking that they do. It is not defense when there are dead children, schools and hospitals destroyed eight months after October 7th. She does have to keep up with US politics though so her statement is expected ig. Israel is claiming that what they are doing is in response to 10/7, she clearly distinguishes that that excuse is impermissible. What else do you want her to say? We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Please note, that in this moment she has to be overcorrect using words like "unwavering" otherwise she could be shut and easily targeted as anti-semitic. She still is in a position where she needs the support of every corner of her own party before she could truly say what positions she is believing to be the best. With that being said, I think it was a very well balanced speech and thoughtful showing how she highlighted concerns while also appelling to everyone to not forget about the nuances and the history of this conflict while also condeming violence of any form within during the protests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Oak 7,761 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: Israel is claiming that what they are doing is in response to 10/7. She clearly distinguishes that that excuse is impermissible. What else do you want her to say? Not a thing. But it is most proper to highlight the hypocrisy of politicians now and then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,845 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 I’m all for pressuring Kamala Harris on this issue… after she wins the election. Especially considering her opponent, a proud Islamophobe, sees Gaza as free real estate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Here is the video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Emvee said: I’m all for pressuring Kamala Harris on this issue… after she wins the election. Especially considering her opponent, a proud Islamophobe, sees Gaza as free real estate. This, Trump said he would Nuke Gaza. Truly scary. videos like this, truly do more harm then good: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN9gpwoR/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,845 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 5 minutes ago, MessyTop said: This, Trump said he would Nuke Gaza. Truly scary. videos like this, truly do more harm then good: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN9gpwoR/ I watch the heart breaking videos of Gaza too. In those moments I want to tear all of DC to pieces for allowing those things to happen. I understand the rage of the protestors, but likewise it enrages me to watch them squander an opportunity to have a president who can be reasoned with or pressured to change American foreign policy. Instead they want to smear her in this moment and let HIM win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 41,937 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Wonder if this is a sign she’s chosen Shapiro to be her running mate. However middle of the road this statement is, it’s as pro-Gaza as you’re ever gonna get from a politician running to be president. Having Shapiro on board could possibly free her up to be this bold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Emvee said: I watch the heart breaking videos of Gaza too. In those moments I want to tear all of DC to pieces for allowing those things to happen. I understand the rage of the protestors, but likewise it enrages me to watch them squander an opportunity to have a president who can be reasoned with or pressured to change American foreign policy. Instead they want to smear her in this moment and let HIM win. I agree with you. I don’t know the answers, but liberal folk saying Kamala equals Trump is truly shocking. Is flat out dangerous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, LateToCult said: Wonder if this is a sign she’s chosen Shapiro to be her running mate. However middle of the road this statement is, it’s as pro-Gaza as you’re ever gonna get from a politician running to be president. Having Shapiro on board could possibly free her up to be this bold. I think Shapiro is a great politician, but it could get very complicated. From all the polls everyone wants Pete or Gretchen. We shall see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 54,011 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 48 minutes ago, Mr Oak said: Not a thing. But it is most proper to highlight the hypocrisy of politicians now and then Nothing hypocritical about her statement. You got bodied, I fear We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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