HeardASine 413 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Amy Adams x Lady Gaga Actors on Actors would eat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 104,764 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Ryan Gaslighting was the lead in Barbie but was submitted to supporting because the studio determined that he has more chances to win this category than the lead one. Same for Robert Downey Jr. who actually won the award. Sometimes it's about the chances to win and not really about the screen time or if the actor is billed as the lead actor. She most likely not gonna beat the monster actresses in Best Actress.. For ASIB if they submitted her for Supporting, she probably had 2 Oscar's that night. I could play the moderator, I can ban you, die sis. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourEvilTwin 1,336 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Clayton Davis is a ****ing joke. Never believe a word that clown says. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 71,849 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I don't get why some of y'all are so angry about this. First of all, the movie isn't even out yet. She's obviously the female lead of the film, but if the story is mostly told from Arthur's point of view, an argument could be made that she's "supporting." Also, this wouldn't be the first time studios and actors have campaigned to be in a different category. It's happened dozens of times. Is it weird? Sometimes. But nothing to write home about. It's very much a strategic decision and if she does it, ok. It probably does increase her chances of getting the Oscar tbh. But some of y'all acting like this discredits her artistic integrity are wild. Oscar campaigns are campaigns. It's about playing politics with awards shows and voters. 𝕀𝕗 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕨𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕒 𝕤𝕚𝕟𝕟𝕖𝕣, 𝕀 𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕞𝕒𝕜𝕖 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕓𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕖𝕧𝕖 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourEvilTwin 1,336 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Reality said: I don't get why some of y'all are so angry about this. First of all, the movie isn't even out yet. She's obviously the female lead of the film, but if the story is mostly told from Arthur's point of view, an argument could be made that she's "supporting." Also, this wouldn't be the first time studios and actors have campaigned to be in a different category. It's happened dozens of times. Is it weird? Sometimes. But nothing to write home about. It's very much a strategic decision and if she does it, ok. It probably does increase her chances of getting the Oscar tbh. But some of y'all acting like this discredits her artistic integrity are wild. Oscar campaigns are campaigns. It's about playing politics with awards shows and voters. 15 minutes ago, River said: Ryan Gaslighting was the lead in Barbie but was submitted to supporting because the studio determined that he has more chances to win this category than the lead one. Same for Robert Downey Jr. who actually won the award. Sometimes it's about the chances to win and not really about the screen time or if the actor is billed as the lead actor. She most likely not gonna beat the monster actresses in Best Actress.. For ASIB if they submitted her for Supporting, she probably had 2 Oscar's that night. Y'all are taking this way too seriously. Clayton Davis is NOT a credible source by any stretch of the imagination and I can guarantee y'all he pulled this out of his fat ass. Gaga is NOT going supporting. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 71,849 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 7 minutes ago, YourEvilTwin said: Y'all are taking this way too seriously. Clayton Davis is NOT a credible source by any stretch of the imagination and I can guarantee y'all he pulled this out of his fat ass. Gaga is NOT going supporting. I wasn't speaking like it was fact. 𝕀𝕗 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕨𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕒 𝕤𝕚𝕟𝕟𝕖𝕣, 𝕀 𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕞𝕒𝕜𝕖 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕓𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕖𝕧𝕖 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 104,764 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, YourEvilTwin said: Y'all are taking this way too seriously. Clayton Davis is NOT a credible source by any stretch of the imagination and I can guarantee y'all he pulled this out of his fat ass. Gaga is NOT going supporting. I think you’re the one who takes it a bit too seriously. It’s a possible outcome, supporting or lead, any oscar’s nomination is amazing. I could play the moderator, I can ban you, die sis. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack3257 635 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Two things to remember about voter psychology. First, since Phoenix is playing the title character, she will automatically be the second thought for most people who watch the film. Second, there need to be enough scenes with Gaga where Phoenix isn’t present for her to be a solid leading actress contender. Phoenix was a working on the film for a while before Gaga started, so chances are he’s in more of the final cut. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin 5,207 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 When I first saw the title of this thread I thought that it was "Gaga might campaign for President" Follow every rainbow till you find your dream 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,242 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Oh who cares abt these awards anymore Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 2,462 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 This award doesn’t always seem to be consistent with how big/small the parts are. Catherine Zeta-Jones won Best Supporting Actress for Chicago, and I would definitely think of that as a co-lead. A really old one, but Meryl herself won this back in 1979 for one of the title roles in Kramer vs Kramer. But then you have smaller roles like the lady who played the older Rose in Titanic being nominated. But if her screen time is comparatively less than Joaquin’s, this could be a legitimate thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnhat 3,206 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Anthony Hopkins won his Best Actor with only 16 minutes of screen time. The screentime doesn't necessarily determine whether an actor should be in the main or supporting category. Considering her previous nomination in A Star Is Born and her dedication to her craft, I think she should submit herself in the main category if her role is as substantial as expected. A nomination would already be a significant accomplishment for her career, given that not all actresses have received a lead actress nomination, and even fewer have received two. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 They dont know how this work lmao, no way a lead will send it for “supporting” lmfao 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4SeasonsInADay 48 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Film marketed around the two big names Joaquin Phoenix as the POV character One character falling under the influence of the other The "supporting" role getting a little over 70% of the screen time that the "lead" does Is that Joker 2 or The Master? Philip Seymour Hoffman was considered by many to be a lead but in the awards cycle defaulted to Supporting. Take gender out of it, I wouldn't see this as any different if it happens. All I hope for is that she gets to go to the Oscars as a double nominee so that her acting gets recognised again. Since an Original Song nomination is considered to be a lock. Having to do that circuit and performance without an acting nomination would suck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 5,960 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 If the best actress in a leading role competition is too tough this year... I'm all for a trick to get us Gaga's second Oscar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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