Internal Democratic polling shows bloodbath for Biden

[FreedomInTheMusic 618]

If Dems continue to deny the undeniable here and fail to remove Biden, they will hand this election to Trump.

[Cameltoe Chariot 15,310]

39 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I sure wish the republican party sabotaged itself like the democrats do. But at least they have the sense to fall in line to get what they want. 

I totally agree with you! But at the same time Republicans DO sabotage themselves all the time. Look at MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, f*ck even TRUMP has done nothing but bring chaos, disorder and negative reactions and press to the Republican Party.

But as you said perfectly, the difference is the American Right is aligned under one mission: power. They roll their eyes and look away from their own flop members, fall in line and keep their eyes on the prize every election. Nobody can convince me that somehow Biden's old, slow and sloppy debate performance is somehow worse than Trump miming mentally disabled people, threatening to grab women by their p*ssies, and every other deranged thing he's done before, during and after his presidency.

Biden sucks, Biden is a war criminal complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, and his stubbornness might be what leads to America's final descent into fascism. But as a far-left queer individual it has been frustrating witnessing other like-minded leftists from different "sub groups" waste time attacking, policing and cancelling our own for the past 4 years instead of doing ANY meaningful political work towards unifying the American Left in a similar way as the Right. Even LEFT MEDIA is focusing on only one thing here: Biden must go, instead of the judicial coup that has occurred with the Supreme Court in broad f*cking daylight.

It feels like the American Left reserves their energy and activism for the final stretch of every election, every single time... where was the pressure on Biden about Roe vs Wade in any meaningful way? Where's the pressure on THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION to do what they can over the past 4 years? Why is no one paying attention to their state politics and being strategic beyond who get's the top prize of presidency??

America's biggest problem isn't guns, racism or religious fanaticism - it's a cultural commitment to denying collective reality and promoting individualism. And this is why the left almost always loses.

[FATCAT 60,896]

51 minutes ago, River said:

There's always a client behind those polls and they always ask to rig them in their favor

In that case it would be rigged in favor of Biden, Internal polls are meant to be kept private because the campaign funds them.

[LateToCult 41,936]

The sliver of bright light in all of this is the top tier comedy 

 

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,699]

13 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

I totally agree with you! But at the same time Republicans DO sabotage themselves all the time. Look at MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, f*ck even TRUMP has done nothing but bring chaos, disorder and negative reactions and press to the Republican Party.

I'll add more in a bit when I have time and respond to all of your reply bc there's a lot there worth talking about and you deserve that respect/attention. 

What I can say now is that those people may be insane and hurting the party, but they're still in power and get things done because their party takes care of their own for the benefit of their cause. Dems can't focus on the big picture enough not to cannibalize and ruin themselves from the top all the way down to the voting citizens. 

[gemein3 1,466]

The polls are still too irrelevant to be trusted right now, though questions and concerns are justified. 

However, voters need to understand they’re voting for the protection of liberalism in the US — if Trump wins it will die. Protections for so many of us, our friends and families will be attacked, protesters attacked, rights removed, surveillance, censorship, extreme inequalities, violence, and as the Supreme Court just proved to us — they will, because they can. They’re telling us to our faces what their plans are. 

We’re not voting for Biden — we’re voting for an agenda, and it’s not an ideal one, but we’re playing with fire pretending the alternative agenda is also the status quo.

[PunkTheFunk 125,719]

26 minutes ago, gemein3 said:

The polls are still too irrelevant to be trusted right now

Why?

[gemein3 1,466]

13 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Why?

The election is just over 4 months from now. Who knows the wild dynamics that can shift the landscape of the election. So many unknowns. So many factors to consider.

Also, I’ve been deeply engaged for nearly two decades now, and I can say for a fact I have never been polled, nor do I know anyone within my circle who has been.  

[Morphine Prince 109,712]

41 minutes ago, gemein3 said:

The election is just over 4 months from now. Who knows the wild dynamics that can shift the landscape of the election. So many unknowns. So many factors to consider.

Also, I’ve been deeply engaged for nearly two decades now, and I can say for a fact I have never been polled, nor do I know anyone within my circle who has been.  

It’s July. We can’t say the polls are irrelevant now. 

[TEETHTEETH 1,806]

I doubt it will come to fruition but can y’all imagine Hilary or even Michele Obama jumping in?? 

[JoeCool 1,025]

3 hours ago, Mindblown said:

Love that they're like "Oh most presidents do bad in their first debates". There's a difference from doing bad in a debate and literally being unable to form a coherent sentence. 

That and Joe only has one more debate to make it up.  Prior there were always 3 presidential debates before these new sets of rules.  To which I think the Democrats set up the new debate rules.

 

It feels like they are trying to lose.   

[pachinko 10,757]

Michelle Obama would destroy Trump

[LateToCult 41,936]

24 minutes ago, pachinko said:

Michelle Obama would destroy Trump

Michelle doesn’t want any part of this mess. She hated her time in the White House. 

[gemein3 1,466]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

It’s July. We can’t say the polls are irrelevant now. 

Sorry, but historically this is incorrect. This is the first election where the first presidential debates didn’t happen toward the fall for example — those have always impacting polling. 

My original point: polling can change dramatically for myriad reasons, especially 4 months away when it’s July. 

[Aren 965]

Michelle could run and immediately step down after she wins if she doesn’t want to be president. She really needs to at least consider it, at this point she’s the only one who could beat Trump.