Economy 46,973 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bowman said: At first I thought no it’s not but then I do kinda agree it does feel a bit like that. They should of just kept ‘Tonight I’m Lovin You‘ The song Gaga did - stuck on ****in you, would that be considered that? 10 hours ago, Admin said: Why is noone talking about the fact that the song is literally about rape? I dont know. The song sounds more like a persistent guy with high self confience and that he is pretty sure/optimistic hes getting layed with her. Not necessairily that hes gonna try to make or force her to do it Sounds like toxic masculinity & objectification which is already problematic but i wouldnt go as far as calling it rape I feel theres a gender bias here too. If a female artist made a song with these lyrics youd all be calling it sexual seduction from an empowered woman not rape. Like i can almost see a song with very simmilar lyrics in Britney Spears femme fatale EDIT: I will add there are scenarios with the right nuances leading up to it that could make this too pushy and heading in a direction that comes across rapy. But its just a song, so we dont have that kind of background detail like we would in a real life situation. So it also depends how ur imagining the exchange of words between ppl in a song like this and how it led up to it. But u do kind of have to make some assumptions in order to draw to that conclusion Edited December 3, 2023 by Economy 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 35,563 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: She could’ve wanted the instrumental, not the actual song. Kinda how like a handful on songs on BTW and ARTPOP were already-made instrumentals and Gaga wrote the lyrics used That makes more sense. The instrumental does have a little bit of Judas/The Fame DNA in there but RedOne used a lot of that during that time with JLo, Pitbull, Enrique, Porcelain Black, Nicole Scherzinger, Nicki, etc. As for the lyrics.. yeah I think they'd have been written from scratch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 9,872 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Admin said: Why is noone talking about the fact that the song is literally about rape? can we not trivialize something like rape please? thanks! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 21,603 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Economy said: I dont know. The song sounds more like a persistent guy with self confience that he is pretty sure/optimistic hes getting layed with her. Not necessairily that hes gonna try to make or force her to do it Sounds like toxic masculinity & objectification which is already problematic but i wouldnt go as far as calling it rape I feel theres a gender bias here too. If a female artist made a song with these lyrics youd all be calling it sexual seduction from an empowered woman not rape. Like i can almost see a song with very simmilar lyrics in Britney Spears femme fatale Yes! As long as we assume the lyrics are from a “reliable narrator” perspective the very first line is “I know you want me i made it obvious that I want you too” which sounds mutual and not rapey lol but on topic this songs kinda lame so im sure gaga wouldve made it better though Edited December 3, 2023 by holy scheisse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chromatography said: can we not trivialize something like rape please? thanks! I’m not. People have been pointing this out since the song came out over a decade ago Rape Culture Is Everywhere Our Kids Can See Rape Culture Within Music Industry 13 Songs You Probably Liked Before Your Feminist Awakening Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, holy scheisse said: Yes! As long as we assume the lyrics are from a “reliable narrator” perspective the very first line is “I know you want me i made it obvious that I want you too” which sounds mutual and not rapey lol How is “I know you want me” mutual and not rapey? It’s the exact same lyric that “Blurred Lines" got cancelled for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, Economy said: I feel theres a gender bias here too. If a female artist made a song with these lyrics youd all be calling it sexual seduction from an empowered woman not rape. Like i can almost see a song with very simmilar lyrics in Britney Spears femme fatale You’re not wrong here. Zara Larsson has a song that’s even worse: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 46,973 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Admin said: How is “I know you want me” mutual and not rapey? It’s the exact same lyric that “Blurred Lines" got cancelled for Ok hb we say it maybe going borderline? Like in real life this could go either way depending on the nuances of the tone of voice, level of obvious interest she shows (or doesnt show) in sexual activity, the dynamics of the night and relationship etc This COULD be rapy depending pn other nuances as part of the overall picture leading up to that Going purely off a song of a hypothetical scenario tho, i wouldnt jump to that conclusion. Sounds more like coming on strong to me or just having too much confidence/ego I think this is borderline/grey depending how u interpret it. I wouldnt quite call it rape yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 46,973 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Admin said: You’re not wrong here. Zara Larsson has a song that’s even worse: Hmmmm. Seems on a simmilar level. I think also depends on the context too. Is the other guy also into her and displaying sexual interest or is this a pure 1 way street of her throwing herself without any consent from her guy (or girl i guess it doesnt specify)? Nuances matter in these cases and a song of a hypothetical scenario isnt gonna have all these details written into them that in real life matter a lot But then again i couldnt catch every single lyric. She sang too fast in a few parts. Im going off what i could make out Edited December 3, 2023 by Economy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 21,603 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Admin said: How is “I know you want me” mutual and not rapey? It’s the exact same lyric that “Blurred Lines" got cancelled for Idk bc maybe he does in fact know that lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah X 5,249 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 can someone reply to me once there's an AI version? thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,986 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 This genuinely surprises me. The beat sounds very Gaga circa 2008 but I can't get over how the lyrics sound so clearly written with a male singer in mind. A lot of songs are made for someone specific in mind and it amazes me that this was offered to anyone other than Enrique, it has his style at the time written all over it and was clearly made to capitalise on the dance music craze at the time. I couldn't see Gaga making anything like this now and as I really don't think this song has aged well, I'm really glad she never did it. This has to be one of the weirdest, most random pieces of Gaga trivia to date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 4,643 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 She wanted the instrumental Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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