1989 (Taylor's Version) debuts at #1 on Billboard 200 with 1,653,000 units

[Gagaism 10,065]

Exceeded expectations right in front of haters salads LMAO 

[ALGAYDO 30,328]

3 hours ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

Not you getting dragged by swifties for telling the truth 

[ThisGuyTony 29,337]

4 hours ago, River said:

yay another achievements that only swifties cares about, her ego went up a little, her bank account got bigger and her fans are stuck with 50 variant of the same thing that they bought almost 10 years ago

It's a parody at this point

 

Spilling the facts as usual .

[MessyTop 14,316]

4 hours ago, River said:

yay another achievements that only swifties cares about, her ego went up a little, her bank account got bigger and her fans are stuck with 50 variant of the same thing that they bought almost 10 years ago

It's a parody at this point

 

50 variants?

[RAMROD 104,942]

5 hours ago, River said:

yay another achievements that only swifties cares about, her ego went up a little, her bank account got bigger and her fans are stuck with 50 variant of the same thing that they bought almost 10 years ago

It's a parody at this point

 

 

Don't forget the fact why she is doing this re-releases in the first place. Majority of her fans are happy to support her in that cause. They are super loyal in that regards.

In retrospect though, comments like is probably why Gaga didn't see bright future in her music career so much and choose expanding to other businesses ventures with different set of audience, such as vegas performing, acting, make up, and even big pharma money. She knew many of her music fans enjoys tearing her down and such penny pinchers more than supporting her.    

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

no like genuinely who tf cares about variants or swifties or anything how tf does someone who u will never b in orbit with carry that much resentment, like why does being a fan have to involve such toxicity and why do any of u care about numbers so much, she brought old material in a new way(kinda underwhelming but 1989 in itself was crazy at the time so kinda hard to capture lighting twice) but like fr regardless of fandom why do yall carry resentment sm, its so weird that yall like literally vicariously live through some of these people and its so fking evident pls get a life stop thinking a win for taylor is a loss against u

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

Just now, RAMROD said:

 

Don't forget the fact why she is doing this re-releases in the first place. Majority of her fans are happy to support her in that cause. They are super loyal in that regards.

In retrospect though, comments like is probably why Gaga didn't see bright future in her music career so much and choose expanding to other businesses ventures with different set of audience, such as vegas performing, acting, make up, and even big pharma money. She knew many of her music fans enjoys tearing her down and such penny pinchers more than supporting her.    

no this fr, like this community is so weirdly toxic and for being a fan of someone who literally tells u "hey, i dont like the pitting women against each other"


YALL HAVE SOME V DIRTY EARS

to not listen to fking lady gaga herself when she says hey stop the drama, start the music

like plain and simple, u dont like taylor u dont listen, but to take energy and time to actively show distaste or dissatisfaction for someone who is clearly doing well is such dumb hater behavior

 

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13 minutes ago, LadyxGaGa said:

no like genuinely who tf cares about variants or swifties or anything how tf does someone who u will never b in orbit with carry that much resentment, like why does being a fan have to involve such toxicity and why do any of u care about numbers so much, she brought old material in a new way(kinda underwhelming but 1989 in itself was crazy at the time so kinda hard to capture lighting twice) but like fr regardless of fandom why do yall carry resentment sm, its so weird that yall like literally vicariously live through some of these people and its so fking evident pls get a life stop thinking a win for taylor is a loss against u

A lot of pop super fans are like hardcore video game fans, and are like sports fans. They have a favorite that they follow and talk **** about anyone who does not fall within that artists' interests.

[MonsterPaws 2,652]

9 hours ago, Sine From Above said:

Im not blabbering about anything ? I’m simply stating my opinion ?

But on a serious note I somewhat agree with your view.

But at the same time, people can be convinced by marketing only by so much. Yes, Swifties are buying albums and variants like crazy but at the end of the day that's Taylor's impact. And at least there's some fun in those variants and Vault Tracks. Taylor could have sold her albums for 99 cents on Amazon but she didn't (https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gagas-born-this-way-again-on-sale-at-amazon-for-99-cents-471012/).

If Adele released 4 variants of 30 or if Ed Sheeran released special editions of Autumn Variations would they be able to hit the numbers Taylor has? I personally doubt it. 

Taylor has managed to create yet another peak in her career if not *the* peak of her career.

She's topping streaming platforms, has a sold-out tour filling stadiums to the brim, released one of the highest grossing concert films, and the Eras Tour is the highest grossing female tour of all time, and second highest grossing tour of all time.

She is the industry right now.

The Devil works hard but Taylor Swift works harder. Re-recording her albums on top of new Vault tracks, the Eras Tour, the concert film etc. it's just all insane.

[River 106,358]

4 hours ago, MessyTop said:

50 variants?

are u really going to pretend that the original release is not part of the whole variants fiasco

It's the same album lol

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

4 hours ago, Agunimon said:

A lot of pop super fans are like hardcore video game fans, and are like sports fans. They have a favorite that they follow and talk **** about anyone who does not fall within that artists' interests.

ig at the hardcore end i didn’t assume toxicity lmao i just figured we’re like f that person and moved on 

[Tinnitus15 50,529]

2 hours ago, MonsterPaws said:

released one of the highest grossing concert films

Did it outgross MJ’s film? Cuz I saw her film is about to surpass the new mission impossible 

[MonsterPaws 2,652]

1 hour ago, Tinnitus15 said:

Did it outgross MJ’s film? Cuz I saw her film is about to surpass the new mission impossible 

Not yet.

Just pulling the Wikipedia numbers, This Is It grossed $286M ($390 adjusted for inflation), while Eras did $230M so far. I don't see Eras surpassing $390M 

Though technically Eras Tour is listed as the highest grossing concert film since it seems This Is It is classified as a documentary. But I still count it as a concert/documentary film.

In any case, Eras tour is one of the highest grossing concert films of all time, second to MJ's.

Edit: I forgot to mention Eras released in some international regions this past weekend. They were almost filled where I'm from but I couldn't go. I really hope they're still showing it this weekend.

[MonsterPaws 2,652]

11 hours ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

 

[nATAH 43,279]

8 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

Not you getting dragged by swifties for telling the truth 

he made them MAD mad, kinda funny to watch