EU Stops Aid Payments To Palestine After Hamas Attacks

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4 minutes ago, Pennywise said:

Yes, but that does not mean a genocide is justified. *many* places in the Middle East are quite intolerant of LGBTQ+ people, including Israel, where gay marriage is not legal no matter how they try to make Tel Aviv sound like some sort of gay paradise. This does not mean that people of those places deserve to be killed. 

 

I just think it’s hypocrisy when left-wing people (I am left wing myself) support Palestine especially LGBT+ people who would happily throw those people off of buildings and behead them. 

[Better Day 5,766]

4 minutes ago, Bambino said:

Thank you. That person is showing hatred to Palestine. They clearly never talked to a gay Palestinian before.

Tell that to the gay Palestinian that was beheaded. Oh wait… 

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8 minutes ago, Better Day said:

https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/palestine/

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2019-06-25/ty-article/.premium/pride-and-prejudice-the-hellish-life-of-gazas-lgbtq-community/0000017f-db0b-df9c-a17f-ff1b46ca0000

I don't understand what kinda connection you're trying to make here. Palestinian gays don't go on gay parades in Palestine, but no place in the Middle East does. Are you using a cultural mindset of the religiously conservative area as an excuse to degrade people, saying they don't deserve any rights just because they don't have LGBT rights? Just so you know, in Palestine, there are no laws that criminalize homosexuality. It's socially unacceptable, yes, but it's not like a crime to the government there.

 

6 minutes ago, XCX World said:

Hey there

I did, many times

They are scared as s*** and often stay in the closet their whole life or flee from their family scared of death

Also, a short look at Palestinians online activity shows that they aren't the most gay friendly, to say the least.

What's your point? Palestine is a Middle Eastern country and the LGBT movement will be taking a very long way all over the Middle East. I don't see how y'all use that excuse to sound superior

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5 minutes ago, Better Day said:

I just think it’s hypocrisy when left-wing people (I am left wing myself) support Palestine especially LGBT+ people who would happily throw those people off of buildings and behead them. 

You are judging the people as a whole again, though. For example, hate crimes and trans murders happen in the U.S. a LOT too. Do you think it is okay to call for extermination of Americans? Can you see that by condemning all Palestinians you also condemn LGBTQ+ people who ARE Palestinians? And even if, by some chance, let's say there are NO LGBTQ+ people living in Palestine at all: does that make killing Palestinians justifiable nevertheless? Do we legitimize the genocide of a whole people because there are bad people among them? 

And there is also the fact that I can only talk about this in a calm and collected way because I am far removed from the conflict. How do you expect Palestinian people to react to the discourse in this website? Can you blame them for reacting emotionally? This also goes for Israeli members too, I understand their apprehension to an extent as well. But no matter what I say here, genocide is genocide, and it is *always* wrong. And what is happening there, what HAS been happening to Palestinian people is just that, like, there is no way around it. Can I propose a solution? No. Do we still need to be humane? Yes. 

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Just now, Bambino said:

I don't understand what kinda connection you're trying to make here. Palestinian gays don't go on gay parades in Palestine, but no place in the Middle East does. Are you using a cultural mindset of a religiously conservative area as an excuse to degrade people, saying they don't deserve any rights just because they don't have LGBT rights. Just so you know, in Palestine, there are no laws that criminalize homosexuality. It's socially unacceptable, yes, but it's not like a crime to the government there.

 

What's your point? Palestine is a Middle Eastern country and the LGBT movement will be taking a very long way all over the Middle East. I don't see how y'all use that excuse to sound superior

Look at Wikipedia babes, homosexuality is illegal in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians have no right to the land. 

[Better Day 5,766]

3 minutes ago, Pennywise said:

You are judging the people as a whole again, though. For example, hate crimes and trans murders happen in the U.S. a LOT too. Do you think it is okay to call for extermination of Americans? Can you see that by condemning all Palestinians you also condemn LGBTQ+ people who ARE Palestinians? And even if, by some chance, let's say there are NO LGBTQ+ people living in Palestine at all: does that make killing Palestinians justifiable nevertheless? Do we legitimize the genocide of a whole people because there are bad people among them? 

No, LGBT+ activists support LGBT rights in the USA however they turn a blind eye to the actual murders of LGBT+ Palestinians especially the guy that was beheaded. It’s just pure utter hypocrisy, people are still supporting the terrorism that was done by Hamas. The Israelis have more right to the land than the Palestine’s. 

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idk why y'all keep arguing, none of you will change your viewpoints about this

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Just now, Better Day said:

No, LGBT+ activists support LGBT rights in the USA however they turn a blind eye to the actual murders of LGBT+ Palestinians especially the guy that was beheaded. It’s just pure utter hypocrisy, people are still supporting the terrorism that was done by Hamas.

It sounds like you are just repeating the same things over and over again without listening to any of the answers so I'll just stop here and let you be.
 

1 minute ago, Better Day said:

The Israelis have more right to the land than the Palestine’s. 

Also: thanks for showing your true colors and letting us know that you don't ACTUALLY care for human rights, let alone gay rights. 

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1 minute ago, XCX World said:

 

Wasn't this you like literal minutes ago?

 

What about this?

1 minute ago, Better Day said:

Look at Wikipedia babes, homosexuality is illegal in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians have no right to the land. 

Right. I should have included Gaza because someone gets their info from Wikipedia most probably believes that Gaza is a whole country by itself The government in Gaza is different from the one in the West Bank and yes it's extreme but that should in no way justify your hatred and racism towards Palestinians.

1 minute ago, Better Day said:

The Israelis have more right to the land than the Palestine’s. 

This is why there will never peace because people like you filled with racism and supremacy will never want to co-exist on a land they stole from indigenous people but rather have the whole thing to themselves without giving a **** about Palestinians.

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50 minutes ago, Better Day said:

Small question, how many Palestinians support Hamas. 

50% of Gaza Palestinians support Hamas, and 40% of West Bank Palestinian support Hamas. But if you speak against Hamas, you and your family will be jailed and punished! So the numbers are not accurate, it could be even lower.

Now lets ask how many Israelis support Zionism and the IDF? 90% of them do!

I personally dont think any of this is relevant, im just bringing it up because you did.
 

45 minutes ago, Meat said:

My country was colonised by Arabs for centuries so you can guess why. But I guess it’s not trendy to talk about that. 

You literally just admitted you hated Arabs, and did not even defend yourself from the accusation that you hate Arabs, and made justification for it! And your justification is shows you are biased coming from a irrational emotional perspective.

I am a Muslim Arab, but I would never use what America and Jews did to my country as a way to hate others.

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1 hour ago, Better Day said:

Small question, how many Palestinians support Hamas. 

How are we supposed to actually know this? You claim in one post that they are so oppressive that LGBT+ will be murdered- yet why wouldn’t that same oppression also translate to them being forced to support this regime? 

I’m pretty sure they haven’t had an “election” since 2006. Their population is also mostly under the age of 20, with an even bigger majority being under the age of 14- which should tell you a lot about how they’re being treated. 

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34 minutes ago, Better Day said:

No, LGBT+ activists support LGBT rights in the USA however they turn a blind eye to the actual murders of LGBT+ Palestinians especially the guy that was beheaded. It’s just pure utter hypocrisy, people are still supporting the terrorism that was done by Hamas. The Israelis have more right to the land than the Palestine’s. 

Thank you so much for making your point Better Day. 

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I just wanted to live this :  the minister of defense of country just said on TV that he sees no reason to stop the aide that it's given to the Palestine authority, there's a UE reunion tomorrow about this, with all the members. So far, he doesn't think that the Palestine authority was/is helping HAMAS, as long that didn't happened, the position of the government is to keep helping. So from what I understanded, there's a review going on and a reunion tomorrow. 

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49 minutes ago, Bambino said:

A better question would be how and why Israelis keep electing a ****ing war criminal with an extremist racist mindset like Netanyahu, whose party include hate-inciting figures like Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, who LITERALLY called for a Palestinian town to be wiped out.

You don't see Palestinian officials saying sh-t like this but Israeli government says it all the time.

I saw an Israeli news outlet blaming Netanyahu for Hamas' attack.

 Here's the original article but it's locked behind a paywall...but plenty of other outlets are quoting them.

The publication blamed intelligence failures and the Israeli prime minister's policy towards Palestinians for the attack by Hamas militants from the Gaza Strip that has so far killed hundreds of Israelis.

The Palestinian health ministry said more than 400 people, including scores of children, had been killed in Israeli strikes, with Israel's Air Force saying it had hit more than 500 Hamas and Islamic Jihad targets in the Gaza Strip.

As the consequences of the deadliest raid into Israeli territory since Egypt and Syria's attacks in the 1973 Yom Kippur War continue to unravel, the editorial board of Israel's third-biggest newspaper said that the conflict "is the clear responsibility of one person: Benjamin Netanyahu."

The op-ed said that the prime minister had "completely failed to identify the dangers he was consciously leading Israel into" when he established a government of "annexation and dispossession" and by appointing Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir to key positions.

Smotrich, a right-wing politician appointed minister of finance in 2022, has caused controversy by expanding Israeli settlements in the West Bank and opposing Palestinian statehood. Ben-Gvir is the security minister, who has faced charges of hate speech against Arabs.

Here's Newsweek's article if you wanna read more

It's nice to see that awareness coming from the Israeli side.

There's also theories going around that Israeli intelligence knew about these attacks and ignored the intel. I mean, they said the same thing about 9/11 here so take that with a grain of salt, but I wholly believe Israel's evil government leaders would sacrifice its people for justification to have a final push and "turn Gaza into a parking lot" or whatever they say there.

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Horrible news.

When Palestine was being blown up, kids and women and innocent people being dismembered, raped and killed no one punished Israel. In fact they rewarded it with the biggest care packages and funding projects ever. Shameful HYPOCRITES. 

These politicians are scum.