What’s with all the Bloodpop hate?

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1 hour ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

I don't see this at all. Most of Chromatica is not stripped back at all. I feel like because it doesn't rely as heavily on bass and synth people view it as stripped back.

Sure but for a house album, it’s a valid point that people want a lot bass and synth 

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5 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

I don't see this at all. Most of Chromatica is not stripped back at all. I feel like because it doesn't rely as heavily on bass and synth people view it as stripped back. 

It was Burns that really was inspired by the sad ballads and started to transform them into dance songs. Gaga chooses her producers, and if she wasn't open to moving her songs into the direction that ended up being Chromatica, she never would have worked with him on those songs and chosen a different producer. It'd be hard to say that Interscope pushed Bloodpop onto her when her most successful song in the past decade isn't even a "real" pop song. I don't think it was necessarily a bad thing that Bloodpop was earnest with her about her creative decisions at the time, it's something that friends can do. In all of the interviews she mentions him, she always also mentions that he saved her life and that he tried hard in numerous ways to cheer her up. Gaga might have been down or vulnerable at some point (if that's what one chooses to believe), but at the end of the day Gaga pulled through and at some point she would have pulled the plug on him if she felt like he was taking advantage of her or just being narcissistic. DoC wouldn't have happened and she wouldn't have promoted him during the press tour. In the end I feel like he just wanted to be genuine, and she trusted him to execute a vision she herself could not muster up the strength to spearhead. I think she wanted to create an intimate work of art with Bloodpop and his people, and that's why the only real outsider in this circle is Ariana. 

I personally don’t really disagree with any of that. Only part I do disagree with is anything Gaga says publicly. PR training is real and she has over 10 years of it - she can’t go out in interviews and say she feels negatively about her collaborators of her most recent project. That won’t get people excited to listen to it. Just look at the ARTPOP era for how she had to constantly talk about things like the DWUW situation positively. It’s not that she is lying, but she has a job to do and it’s to protect her brand and promote it. So everything   always has to be taken with a grain of salt. Interviews aren’t as much an insight to her personal experience as much as they are advertisements - and I mean that with a HUGE amount of respect and love for all involved. It’s just the reality of the industry.

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5 hours ago, Dayman said:

I personally don’t really disagree with any of that. Only part I do disagree with is anything Gaga says publicly. PR training is real and she has over 10 years of it - she can’t go out in interviews and say she feels negatively about her collaborators of her most recent project. That won’t get people excited to listen to it. Just look at the ARTPOP era for how she had to constantly talk about things like the DWUW situation positively. It’s not that she is lying, but she has a job to do and it’s to protect her brand and promote it. So everything   always has to be taken with a grain of salt. Interviews aren’t as much an insight to her personal experience as much as they are advertisements - and I mean that with a HUGE amount of respect and love for all involved. It’s just the reality of the industry.

I could see that but why give him any credit at all if she didn't feel positively about him? She could have just as easily spun anyone close to her into her recovery. 

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5 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

I could see that but why give him any credit at all if she didn't feel positively about him? She could have just as easily spun anyone close to her into her recovery. 

He took part in the production of every song except for Replay. It would say more to say nothing about him if there was any negative feeling. Truly I don’t believe there to be any [largely] negative feelings from Gaga about Bloodpop. It’s more so just about always keeping an open mind to the fact that we do not know the full picture of any of their personal relationships, therefore having strong feelings about them one way or the other isn’t productive to anything. Having an opinion of their work itself really is where the relationship on our part should begin and end.

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On 5/10/2023 at 7:54 PM, Admin said:

Chromatica is by far Gaga’s best produced album. 

LMAOOOOOOOO

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43 minutes ago, The Z said:

LMAOOOOOOOO

It is tho lol it may not be your favorite but it is definitely her most polished body of work. 

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3 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

It is tho lol it may not be your favorite but it is definitely her most polished body of work. 

Okay so I have to bite on this one. I’m a Chromatica fan but I don’t understand people praising it at as her best produced or most polished. It is well produced and is polished but I would say it’s on par with all her previous albums. The only one that I would rate lower is Born This Way just due to quality of some of the vocal recordings being lower - but even the production there while it is noisy at times it is definitely polished and well produced for its intended purpose. I think the biggest think that Chromatica has on its side in terms of its mixing over other albums of hers is the continuous play through from song to song, but that’s more of an artistic choice of how the album was going to presented more like a full fledged story before a lot of it fell to the wayside with COVID.

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I’ve never once said anything about him, but since we are here, I just personally don’t think his work with Gaga production wise is anything innovative. I enjoy Joanne and Chromatica but she’s had better producers. Sorry. 

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On 5/10/2023 at 2:37 PM, Edonis said:

LMAO in what way was the Free Woman demo dark techno??? I swear some of you guys just say stuff

Lmfao finally someone says it. GGD also thinks anything mildly dark is “industrial”. 

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On 5/10/2023 at 6:54 PM, Admin said:

Chromatica is by far Gaga’s best produced album. 

It's certainly the slickest production. For what it's worth, I think all her studio albums do a good job of capturing the intended atmosphere of that specific project. I guess we're lucky that, 95% of the time, Gaga's music is very confidently and adeptly produced.

 

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Some people on here hate him because he made music with Gaga and it didn't fit whatever specific and arbitrary expectations they had for it. And they feel entitled to hate on him on the Internet about it because they don't think of Gaga and Bloodpop as people, they think of them as rich artists who are indebted to them because we support them financially via concert tickets and album purchases, etc.. The fact that so many people claim to have opinions about his production or songwriting, as if most of them know anything about music production or have insight into who made which creative decisions for each song, is laughable. At the end of the day, haters are going to hate, and stan culture + social media, including GD and Little Monsters, thrive off that negativity.