Katy has emotional meltdown on Idol

[27monster27 14,684]

44 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I'm not questioning whether her reaction was genuine or entirely fabricated, I'm criticizing the way she expressed this reaction in the face of a victim. She's such a product of her own country's entertainment culture that she couldn't help but making it a "television moment" that shifted the attention towards her, and you're also such a product of that same culture that you can't even begin to see what's wrong with it. She knows she's being filmed, she knows what she's doing.

I think this is too serious a subject matter to be treated with sensationalism, emojis and #AmericanIdol. Then again, this might be a cultural thing, but this made me uncomfortable. I'll agree to disagree and leave everyone feel the way they want to feel as I believe both sentiments are valid, but let's not start calling each other stupid or misogynists like some members are starting to do, or this might derail pretty quickly.

But this is the problem. When woman have this reaction they are always made out to be like they want attention. Would you be saying the thing if a man had this reaction?

[elijahfan 26,849]

5 minutes ago, 27monster27 said:

But this is the problem. When woman have this reaction they are always made out to be like they want attention. Would you be saying the thing if a man had this reaction?

Well, quite frankly yes. I don't think the other examples you used were really comparable to this situation, and saying this is just a gender thing is a misunderstanding of the point me and other users are trying to make.

[HausOfMark 4,280]

This is super sad. 

I was at the syracuse mall on Friday, 100-150 feet away from when a guy took out a gun and shot. Its fucking terrifying and scary to run for your life and hide with your wife hoping to god youre going to be ok. Yes, my experience is different than this young mans where someone lost their lives but its still terrifying. 

This all is very scary and I hope no one has to go through that. ever. 

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14 hours ago, Bebe said:

I know I will get a lot of negative responses to this but I hate this kind of trauma p*rn

I hate that this kids trauma is being used to entertain the public and make Katy and her fellow judges look good. 

This isn't helpful, this is just catering to the egos of the judges and public to make them feel like good people for feeling bad at this tragedy.

Katy Perry, I'm sure, is an absolutely gorgeous person on the inside. I'm sure she is very empathetic and wants to do the right thing - but it's not brave to be upset over this. It doesn't make her a better person. 

There is no call to action after this clip, hopefully there is in the actual show. This is just Katy yelling that "This country has failed us!" and that he shouldn't have had to lose eight friends.

It's simply American Idol exploiting this young man's traumatic experience for shock value, to trigger an emotional response with the audience and to humanise their judges and make them come across as more favourable to their audience.

This isn't an attack on the judges, although I don't like that their emotional response became the central focus, it's an indictment of the producers more than anything.

I agree with you partially because I feel like the main point of the whole clip still was to raise awareness around the issue of gun policy and for that reason I'm not against it. Yes, it's catering to the judges' egos on the expense of such tremendous trauma but the ordinary viewer would very likely never even question such thing and rather see and experience the emotions around this kid's experiences and Katy using her voice which is far more important and I feel like has more impact and was worth it than rather not release this footage at all.

[tylerjs 6,014]

This is so sad but I literally had zero idea that American Idol was still running, much less that Katy Perry is still a judge on it. I saw the article and was like “oh this has to be at least 10 years old” 

[Economy 51,427]

2 hours ago, Bebe said:

I don't doubt Katy's reaction was genuine, my post was directed more at the producers. This just seemed like a particularly egregious example of trauma p*rn that these competition shows are so notorious for.

Yeah maybe. I'm sure they loved the buzz this would cause but it's not like they told Katy to have that reaction lol. I don't think they should have to cut it out (even if it works out in their benefit for ratings)

[ProfessionalClown 10,647]

14 hours ago, elijahfan said:

She’s not the one who lost 8 friends.

You ever heard of the term national trauma? 
 

we have shootings basically every week, it’s something that could happen anywhere. My school was on lockdown for a possible shooter (happily didn’t happen) and the place right across my street was almost shot up by a dude who was threatening all the school counselors to give up his wife and kid or he would k!ll everyone there. 
 

it’s something we’re all afraid of. Ever since Sandy hook for me personally, I’ve been paranoid, after parkland (I was in junior year at the time) I was even more scared. Then we had the shooter scare at my school. Then more and more and more. When stuff happens on a National scale where you don’t know if you’re next or not, it’s terrifying. Everyone I know feels the same, especially here in Texas when you have so many people showing their guns out like it doesn’t matter. 
 

Yes, we know the people who  were personally impacted are the ones who suffered the direct trauma of the event. The continuous action of these shootings though has spread to SO MANY PEOPLE that we as a nation are traumatized by these events ever since columbine. We’re tired of it. If you look at organizations created but who was effected (specifically March for our lives and change the ref) talk about this as well where we as a nation have suffered and we should ass use the collective fight to do something.

it’s not her making it about herself, it’s her just being sick and tired of it.

[monstrosity 3,958]

Overreaction or not, gun violence is talked about today so it’s a win

[ChvVolk 2,440]

I didn't watch the episode

But can someone explain to me why she said he should sing because he loves to sing not because of what he experienced? I'm confused.

Like what did he say his purpose of singing was? Is like some PTSD therapy for him?

[jimmytimestep 2,777]

3 hours ago, HausOfMark said:

This is super sad. 

I was at the syracuse mall on Friday, 100-150 feet away from when a guy took out a gun and shot. Its ****ing terrifying and scary to run for your life and hide with your wife hoping to god youre going to be ok. Yes, my experience is different than this young mans where someone lost their lives but its still terrifying. 

This all is very scary and I hope no one has to go through that. ever. 

I am so sorry this happened to you. Terrifying. Glad you are safe 

[CatelynnMarie 4,408]

Imagine getting panned for f*cking having emotions about something legitimately upsetting, disgusting, terrifying. Especially as a new mother… Also even more importantly, the support for this young man??? Where is THAT energy??? Absolute trash a lot of the judgmental pos out there idgaf. This goes for the producers of American’t Idol too if they did use this story for attention and views. Well congrats you c**ts, you got the attention for your genuinely TIRED show. 

Make up your minds. You either want people to have emotions and them be comfortable/ confident in sharing/ reacting, being open or when people do  openly, genuinely are emotional, regardless of gender, they get sh*t on??? Get REAL. Once again people arguing over absolutely RIDICULOUS crap (whether she should be emotional or not or if it was even a real reaction or even because she tweeted an emoji and hashtag?? Not even knowing if her reasoning of including it was for legal and/ or contract reasons because it’s literally taken from the show she WORKS for) and for what??? What is this doing?? Nothing. That’s what it’s doing. Arguing with eachother on social media is not going to do dogsh*t for the actual problem at hand. Pathetic, shameful, and embarrassing.

“I see humans but no humanity”. Quote continuously rings truer and truer every single day & I’m tired of it. STOP with this consistent crap and just start supporting one another during these hard times especially??? We’re never going to progress at all and just continue going down this spiraling toilet of sh*t if we don’t start supporting one another and quit creating divisions within our species. 

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11 hours ago, elijahfan said:

Please… she was in front of an actual victim who was keeping it together. She’s an entertainer, this is what she does. I wish y’all weren’t so naive, but maybe it’s me who’s just a cynic.

There's no need to quote everyone you disagree with as we already read what you said. It's almost like you're purposefully picking a fight. 

[NCgaga 4,342]

Yeah, this wasn’t sensationalism. The emotion Burst out of her. She couldn’t control it. She obviously felt very strong and is honestly scared about being a celebrity. 

[Squidward T 2,297]

Omg, she totally made that moment about herself. Ugh, i cant 

[Bebe 17,137]

8 hours ago, Economy said:

Yeah maybe. I'm sure they loved the buzz this would cause but it's not like they told Katy to have that reaction lol. I don't think they should have to cut it out (even if it works out in their benefit for ratings)

Yeah I think it would be very cynical to imagine producers told her to have that reaction, also I am not aware of Katy's acting skills - but watch out Gaga if she can pull off a performance like that.

The issue started before he was put in front of the camera. It's not even Katy's reaction that was ever my issue.

It would be psychotic for any of the judges not to have some sort of emotional reaction. Even if Katy had a more emotionally muted reaction like Luke and Lionel my feelings would be the same.

While the producers wouldn't have known exactly how the judges would react - As long as the producers didn't expect their judges to laugh and scoff at the story, the judges where always going to look good by simply showing empathy to the contestant.