Sam Smith gets publicly insulted in New York

[NCgaga 4,314]

4 hours ago, CatelynnMarie said:

This is obviously disgusting & very disturbing, but I can tell you it’s pretty common here. People are not as progressive and left in New York as most think. The literal only reason we are a blue state is because of NYC. Actual residents of NYC, a lot of them are more progressive thinking (a lot of the younger generation too, thank you to literally all of you who take initiative), but remember it’s a lot of visitors too not just from all over the world, but the tri-state, and especially where I’m from, Long Island. Long Island is unfortunately known to be an epicenter for rich, yt, suburbanite trumpies. I don’t know who the woman was, where she came from, if she’s a resident or visiting, but this was disgusting beyond. Reminds me of when BTW was coming out, during TMB days and it makes me sad. I really wish people would stop glorifying New York too as this glamorous, forward thinking, everyone is accepting type energy, amazing place all the time. It can be that at times, but for the most part, it is extremely over priced, you’re surrounded by many rude, selfish, and destructive individuals, etc. This kind of went on a tangent a bit, but it’s just in context that this behavior here does not shock me in the least. Literally makes me sick, but does not shock me.

Sam assumingely did that performance knowing there would be responses like that afterwards, but it still doesn’t warrant harassment like this or of any kind. 

The person name calling is eithe Scottish or Irish and is not from New York. 

[AMRer 3,278]

These scum are everywhere and luckily they are a minority but after the resurgence of the far right movements in the last years they got the power and confidence to say this sh*t out loud. That verbal violence should be punished with prision... And why the f*ck these prople always associate queer people with pedophiles? 

[Wolf Boy 3,172]

He wants attention……now he’s getting it. 
Not saying the woman is right, shes an imbecile, but he’s obviously trying to push buttons.

[Ladle Ghoulash 16,613]

1 hour ago, misha4ever said:

also when governments allow verbal violence and hate speech in the name of "democracy". violence is violence and that should be illegal.

I don't agree that hate speech is violence nor do I think it should be censored by the gov't. It's our responsibility as citizens to hold each other accountable for hateful rhetoric, but I would never give the government the power to censor speech like that.

[Ladle Ghoulash 16,613]

35 minutes ago, Mocchi said:

These scum are everywhere and luckily they are a minority but after the resurgence of the far right movements in the last years they got the power and confidence to say this sh*t out loud. That verbal violence should be punished with prision... And why the f*ck these prople always associate queer people with pedophiles? 

It's a combination of McCarthyist propaganda and the blood libel conspiracy in the form of QAnon, which has unfortunately taken hold of conservative politics across the globe. 

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42 minutes ago, Wolf Boy said:

He wants attention……now he’s getting it. 
Not saying the woman is right, shes an imbecile, but he’s obviously trying to push buttons.

I understand your point but pray for you in this thread.

[Natalia Kills 377]

The satanic stuff is what intrigues me.

The alt-right and traditional conservatives advocate for free speech and people needing a thicker skin but get horrified at people using satanic/demonic symbology when it's just for pop culture.

But then the woke left will exile anyone who dares "play" with a cultural or religious symbol, unless it's Christian and then they suddenly they're obsessed with freedom of expression.

It's too much hypocrisy, I swear they're just the same people.

Edit: views slightly changed, please no replies!

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i really couldn't live one day as a celebrity 'cause if that was me i would've been arrested or cancelled for spitting on her and tell her to die already 

[alsemanche 92,076]

8 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

I understand your point but pray for you in this thread.

the fact that you're more worried about someone victim blaming than the actual victim getting harassed is gross to say the least. have some decency because neither you nor the user below made any points here besides blaming a victim for the harassment they're receiving.  Not to mention the misgendering. 

55 minutes ago, Wolf Boy said:

He wants attention……now he’s getting it. 
Not saying the woman is right, shes an imbecile, but he’s obviously trying to push buttons.

You're literally making excuses for the woman so i'm not sure how much you actually think she's an imbecile lol

 

[Healed My Heart 39,510]

I have so much respect for Sam to keep living loudly and proudly in the face of all the criticism and hate they receive. This sort of harassment is awful and shouldn't happen to anyone. Seeing them rise above it all really makes me proud.

[Natalia Kills 377]

4 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

the fact that you're more worried about someone victim blaming than the actual victim getting harassed is gross to say the least. have some decency because neither you nor the user below made any points here besides blaming a victim for the harassment they're receiving.  Not to mention the misgendering. 

You're literally making excuses for the woman so i'm not sure how much you actually think she's an imbecile lol

 

You've sort of just proved my point what I pointed out to the other poster.  

That said... I 100% respect your right to have a view when the context is a discussion like a forum, so you're welcome to say whatever you want on what I say. None is this discussion is actually useful to our lives and is only temporary reasoning and I won't take it personally.

My stance of this situation is that the woman wrongly called out Sam for the pedophile and transphobia. I'm more confused on the satanic stuff, as I'd assume Sam was respectful of cultures and religions. But maybe that's my autism showing.

[Opulence 1,378]

They need to use this as a sample on their next track asap 

[alsemanche 92,076]

6 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

You've sort of just proved my point what I pointed out to the other poster.  

 

You pointed out that they'll get trashed for victim blaming, which is exactly what they deserve. Your point is literally void unless you really expect to have horrible stances about serious issues and not meet any (very rightful and needed) resistance. 

6 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

None is this discussion is actually useful to our lives and is only temporary reasoning and I won't take it personally.

Lol okay.

anw I'm gonna let the mods deal with this and stop replying

[Fuffy 1,023]

9 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

You've sort of just proved my point what I pointed out to the other poster.  

That said... I 100% respect your right to have a view when the context is a discussion like a forum, so you're welcome to say whatever you want on what I say. None is this discussion is actually useful to our lives and is only temporary reasoning and I won't take it personally.

My stance of this situation is that the woman wrongly called out Sam for the pedophile and transphobia. I'm more confused on the satanic stuff, as I'd assume Sam was respectful of cultures and religions. But maybe that's my autism showing.

Don't worry about people who harrass you like that. Some posters get very emotionally invested in this stuff and can be quite toxic and patronizing if you share a different view. 

I get what you mean about the logic. My little sister is autistic and finds a lot of things hypocritical in a way I wouldn't. 

Besides, you didn't say anything wrong. 

[alsemanche 92,076]

11 minutes ago, Gogo Yubari said:

Don't worry about people who harrass you like that. Some posters get very emotionally invested in this stuff and can be quite toxic and patronizing if you share a different view.

Victim blaming and making excuses for harassment isn't a different view. Stop with this nonsense. The fact that you think my reply is harassment is laughable. 

And imagine NOT being invested in "this stuff" when this stuff is affecting so many queer people around the world.