LaLa 19,637 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Borisapillar said: You were not forced. You caved to peer pressure and made your own decision. The fact that someone harassed you is unfortunate but I'm not sure what that has to do with you deciding to drink. You’re really getting bogged down in the semantics of the drinking when that’s not really the point. Pressuring someone into drinking can be part of a non consensual encounter, just like coercing someone into sex acts, without physical force, is rape. “No one can force you” is something said to male sexual assault victims a lot, especially if they are perceived as bigger or stronger etc, you should really examine your black and white thinking on these issues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,710 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I'm disgusted. Kindness rules all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Borisapillar 9,103 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, LaLa said: You’re really getting bogged down in the semantics of the drinking when that’s not really the point. Pressuring someone into drinking can be part of a non consensual encounter, just like coercing someone into sex acts, whiteout physical force, is rape. “No one can force you” is something said to male sexual assault victims a lot, especially if they are perceived as bigger or stronger etc, you should really examine your black and white thinking on these issues I was just explaining myself to a very aggressive response and you're right that the conversation is getting bogged down by the discussion of semantics of alcohol. I've already said if any sexual assault occurred that is absolutely disgusting and consequences should be faced. I wasn't saying ANYTHING about force in regards to sexual assault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanStan 574 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I don’t subscribe to automatically believing the victim. There have been too many instances of people lying. Also, doing so automatically defaults the accused of being a rapist which is unfair without it being proven. I do believe however that all accusations should be taken seriously and investigated fully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,442 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Yikes! I really hope this turns out to be false. To be honest, I don’t see Shangela doing this with a crew member. She’s so professional that it doesn’t feel consistent with everything she is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,046 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 its weird how these accusations are now coming to the public eye when she’s succeeding on that dance show. I won’t be taking sides but we can not believe 100% in every accusation we see online. It seems very off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,549 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SpadesToStart said: Yikes! I really hope this turns out to be false. To be honest, I don’t see Shangela doing this with a crew member. She’s so professional that it doesn’t feel consistent with everything she is about. I didn't want to post in this thread, but I'm just doing to tell you that we literally know nothing about Shangela, so how can you say something like that? Hell, people in real life that we think we know can hide dark sides, let alone a celebrity that we never met. Not going against you, my "tone" is really calm. I wanted just say that the "I don't see *name* doing that" it's not how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Borisapillar said: You were not forced. You caved to peer pressure and made your own decision. The fact that someone harassed you is unfortunate but I'm not sure what that has to do with you deciding to drink. Ignorance is bliss and bigotry is in I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 22,915 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, Borisapillar said: You were not forced. You caved to peer pressure and made your own decision. The fact that someone harassed you is unfortunate but I'm not sure what that has to do with you deciding to drink. Yikes. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,442 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Levine said: I didn't want to post in this thread, but I'm just doing to tell you that we literally know nothing about Shangela, so how can you say something like that? Hell, people in real life that we think we know can hide dark sides, let alone a celebrity that we never met. Not going against you, my "tone" is really calm. I wanted just say that the "I don't see *name* doing that" it's not how it works. I don’t know Shangela personally, so I can’t speak to if something like this is in her character. However, she has always taken working and being an employable drag artist so seriously, that it surprises me she would allegedly sh*t where she eats so to speak, and put that all at risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicaSkas 22,945 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 * please don't be true * *prays* Well folks, if it is true, we can only hope that Shangela addresses it and makes the situation better somehow. If it isn't true, it's a terrible thing because it immediately polarizes the entire fanbase. Because there are only 2 ways to see these things -- and only 1 way is considered "correct". Which can tarnish people for years. Destroy careers. Imagine if it wasn't true.... And if it is, I hope the victim gets whatever relief they need. Whether it's counseling, financial compensation, therapy --- whatever that person needs I hope they get. Please do not destroy each other in this thread, I see a lot of cursing and names like "bigot" getting thrown around... you don't want to get infracted so please Remember The Human behind the keyboard and be kind to each other, even in this unsettling time. Do YOU own the 4' by 6' Perfect Illusion promo Poster? Will pay you for it. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/UWuzumk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,549 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SpadesToStart said: I don’t know Shangela personally, so I can’t speak to if something like this is in her character. However, she has always taken working and being an employable drag artist so seriously, that it surprises me she would allegedly sh*t where she eats so to speak, and put that all at risk. It wouldn't be the first person to do that. We'll see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,066 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Not this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I wonder why he deleted the post. Hopefully he wasn't threatened or anything. If this story is true, "DJ" needs to be charged and punished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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