Bellatrix Actress, Helena Bonham Carter, Defends JK Rowling

[PartySick 149,379]

Hard disagree. Rowling is getting off easy.

You can't educate the hateful people in this world. At some point you have to realize that ignorance is not an excuse anymore. It's 2022. Rowling has had ample time to realize she's wrong but instead, she continues to dig in and LGBT people are paying with their lives.

You can't make nice with bigots. You can only crush them.

Let's not forget MLK's words about the "white moderate" when we were having this same debate but about racism rather than transphobia.

Don't be an apologist for terf trash.

[Ivannn 1,081]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:27 PM, Guillaume Hamon said:

Please nearly none of the so called cancelled stars actually gets cancelled... Also hate speech isn't just an opinion like any other.

Nobody's trying to take this right away from her so making it about her "having the right" to do so misses the mark.

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But She should say her opinion If it is not acceptable by someone’s standard?

[PartySick 149,379]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:45 PM, elijahfan said:

Once again, she's only responding to the level of violence she's getting. You've never snapped at someone who was being harsh towards you?

I'm not telling anyone to change their minds about her, but let's not take part to anyone's lynching, is all I'm saying.

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Nah, she's not being lynched. She's being called out for being a hateful POS and in response, she becomes an even bigger POS.

That's 100000% on her, don't blame others for her worsening behavior. The "lynching" would stop if she'd stop perpetuating a world where trans people can't safely exist.

It's her and only her.

[elijahfan 25,435]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:44 PM, Hold My Ham said:

So you're choosing to absolve her of all responsibility with this take? Really?

I'm not arguing with you. You're a delusional brickwall who doesn't care about the truth, just being correct.

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I'm not absolving her from anything, I am myself disagreeing with her views. I'm just saying a bunch of strangers ganging up on a woman and asking for her to be killed and raped isn't cute. Are you disagreeing with that?

If anything, y'all are the brickwalls here. I'm not debating with anyone who's choosing not to use their 2 brain cells to realize the world isn't black and white. Nuance is a thing, try using it once in a while. You can disagree with someone while also not wishing death upon them.

[PartySick 149,379]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:47 PM, Ivannn said:

But She should say her opinion If it is not acceptable by someone’s standard?

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Bigotry is not an opinion.

[elijahfan 25,435]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:49 PM, PartySick said:

Nah, she's not being lynched. She's being called out for being a hateful POS and in response, she becomes an even bigger POS.

That's 100000% on her, don't blame others for her worsening behavior. The "lynching" would stop if she'd stop perpetuating a world where trans people can't safely exist.

It's her and only her.

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It's actually not up to you to assert whether she's being lynched or not, it's a fact and there have been security concerns for her and her family. Y'all are safe behind your keyboards, but this is very real for some people out there.

[alsemanche 92,323]

f*ck me if i'll ever give a f*ck about a transphobe getting lynched lmaoo

[PhantomOfTheDance 13,773]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:50 PM, elijahfan said:

It's actually not up to you to assert whether she's being lynched or not, it's a fact and there have been security concerns for her and her family. Y'all are safe behind your keyboards, but this is very real for some people out there.

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maybe she shouldn't be a piece of **** human being? who gives a **** about her feelings, there are lgbt members literally DYING and being FORCED to be something ELSE because of people like her. No, it shouldn't be condoned. It shouldn't be pushed under the rug as "well, it's just their opinion". It starts out as an opinion, and then it ends up as a pile of dead bodies at a safe place for LGBT people. It's not right, it's ****ed up, and everyone here should be DISGUSTED AND PISSED OFF. This is bullshit, and she deserves to be treated like the damn scum she is.

[PartySick 149,379]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:49 PM, elijahfan said:

I'm not absolving her from anything, I am myself disagreeing with her views. I'm just saying a bunch of strangers ganging up on a woman and asking for her to be killed and raped isn't cute. Are you disagreeing with that?

If anything, y'all are the brickwalls here. I'm not debating with anyone who's choosing not to use their 2 brain cells to realize the world isn't black and white. Nuance is a thing, try using it once in a while. You can disagree with someone while also not wishing death upon them.

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Right! I'm sure if we're just nicer to the Nazis and white supremacists they'll stop shooting up our clubs, assaulting us, and perpetuating environments where queer kids feel killing themselves is the only option!

Why didn't we think of that? So silly of us, honestly.

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:50 PM, elijahfan said:

It's actually not up to you to assert whether she's being lynched or not, it's a fact and there have been security concerns for her and her family. Y'all are safe behind your keyboards, but this is very real for some people out there.

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So she creates a world where someone has to be scared to be trans and I'm supposed to feel bad for her 'cause she's scared to be a bigot?

Bigots SHOULD be scared! May they NEVER know a day of peace where they're not looking over their shoulder or peeking out their blinds. That's the world they're trying to make for us but our only crime is being queer.

In other words

[PhantomOfTheDance 13,773]

Anyone who sides with a transphobe, homophobe, republican, sexist, etc is on the same side. Anyone who is a republican is a homophobic racist sexist piece of **** who deserves to suffer. Anyone who sides with Rowling is PATHETIC and HOMOPHOBIC. Wake the hell up.

[elijahfan 25,435]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:55 PM, PartySick said:

Right! I'm sure if we're just nicer to the Nazis and white supremacists they'll stop shooting up our clubs, assaulting us, and perpetuating environments where queer kids feel killing themselves is the only option!

Why didn't we think of that? So silly of us, honestly.

So she creates a world where someone has to be scared to be trans and I'm supposed to feel bad for her 'cause she's scared to be a bigot?

Bigots SHOULD be scared! May they NEVER know a day of peace where they're not looking over their shoulder or peeking out their blinds. That's the world they're trying to make for us but our only crime is being queer.

In other words

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I think you should go back to reading what it was she actually said. If you ever looked that up in the first place.

[RahrahWitch 6,982]

Well F*ck you too Helena 

JK is choosing to attack Trans people on the daily, of course people are going to judge her character for that. Calling her actions a harmless opinion is just downplaying it. Trans people's existence isn't "an opinion" 

[Ivannn 1,081]

  On 11/27/2022 at 9:49 PM, PartySick said:

Bigotry is not an opinion.

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But to think you have a right to call someone a bigot is? Freedom of speech goes both ways, not just “your” Way….

[PartySick 149,379]

  On 11/27/2022 at 10:02 PM, elijahfan said:

I think you should go back to reading what it was she actually said. If you ever looked that up in the first place.

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Nah, I don't need to reread her terf bullsh*t. She's lucky some mean words on Twitter is all she's getting 'cause the other side of this "debate", the actual victims, are literally being murdered.

That's where the disconnect is here between you and everyone else.

a) You see some mean tweets and think that's pushing her deeper into her terf hole.

b) We see piles of queer bodies because people like her spew ignorant and hateful sh*t online. Queer clubs being shot up, actual lynchings, legislation targeting the LGBT community, and millions of kids wondering if life is even worth living at all.

You're quick to speak up about point a and defend the indefensible (which is what you're doing, no matter how many times you say you disagree with her) but there's literal lives being lost.

So how about YOU and every other Rowling apologist read the room and realize she is not the victim here. Not even close. She's the disease. She is the problem. Her and everyone that even entertains the idea of agreeing with her.

Gonna lock this before I get out of hand myself. It's just so weird that LGBT people dying pisses me off so much. I wish that would bother some of y'all as much as some insulting online posts to an out of touch billionaire bigot does but we're all entitled to our priorities I guess.

[PartySick 149,379]

  On 11/27/2022 at 10:15 PM, Ivannn said:

But to think you have a right to call someone a bigot is? Freedom of speech goes both ways, not just “your” Way….

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Hate speech is not free speech.

Y'all need to wake the f*ck up and stop making friends with the people who are KILLING US.

F*cking people today, I swear to god.