nATAH 50,446 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, GAGASEXUAL said: Renaissance is not even good. me when i lie mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,755 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Both albums have their up and downs but Hold On, To Be Loved and Love Is A Game are easily some of Adele’s best songs EVER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 8,799 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Renaissance is the worst album I listened to this year, couldn’t make it past 6 tracks. 30 is safe but decent. when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,699 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Meat said: This “insider” is just bitter because they know 30 is winning Meat I love you, but 30 isn't winning. Would I love to wstch the behives' meltdowns? Yes I would, but Adele is NOT winning over Beyoncé. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,226 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 You guys don’t need to say Renaissance is bad to sound edgy, the album is amazing and if Gaga released something remotely similar, we would be praising her to the heavens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisboyisamonster 917 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Renaissance will win this year just so that Grammys can get a nice story that compares this year to the time Adele won over B for 25 and broke her grammy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,004 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 21 hours ago, sara57 said: Well it was written by 400 people. 30 is actually written by the artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Levine said: Meat I love you, but 30 isn't winning. Would I love to wstch the behives' meltdowns? Yes I would, but Adele is NOT winning over Beyoncé. If Lemonade, with its humongous cultural impact and acclaim couldn’t win AOTY then Renaissance most certainly won’t either. People are underestimating Adele because she is underperforming compared to her own standards but you have to remember that it’s still the most successful female album of the year. Not to mention she just won 5/5 of the Emmys she was nominated for. Old white voters love her more than anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 All Up In Your Mind is one of the highlights of Renaissance wtf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifulien 2,969 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Damn, reading the opinions of LMs here, really puts into perspective how I've drifted away from the fandom, and I'm glad so. Renaissance is miles ahead of 30 and Lemonade in terms of music impact. If I remember correctly 25 was awarded exactly for this, it was just good music. Lemonade's undeniable cultural impact was overlooked back then. RENAISSANCE definitely doesn't have it but the impeccable execution and precision on the music, flow and everything... It's my favourite album of the year next to Lykke Li's EYEYE. So I hope this time Bey wins AOTY, she deserves it. Adele's 30 is good but it's more of the same and sometimes even less. It has good songs and excellent songwriting but it doesn't hit as hard. I think 2021 was the year when both Adele and Ed failed to deliver their best work and that's fine. The whole RENAISSANCE slander here got me thinking which Gaga album exactly is able to match this precision and focus, apart from TFM? Maybe a distant second would be Chromatica cause it's engineered in an excellent way but it has its duds. So yeah, I understand some people were disappointed about the lack of visuals but the music suffices (which was a major critique back at the time of ST and Lemonade, people were saying she's hiding the weak music behind the visuals, and now that she doesn't have visuals, she's boring. Anything to criticise her, I guess.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 But the worst song on Renaissance is Move... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,970 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Lanadelduck said: Well it was written by 400 people. 30 is actually written by the artist. Y'all LOVE this empty 'argument' lmaooo We've known Beyonce has a big team behind her for years, why does it need to be brought up every time her work is mentioned? Her work is still great regardless of how many people contribute to it. No one has ever said that an artist needs to do everything on their own to produce good art. ROM has like 8 writers and 3 or 4 producers, SFA has over 10 writers and over 5 producers, even Venus has 6 writers, yet I don't see anyone dragging them for not being solely written by Gaga herself (and/or the feature) lol. We're judging the body of work itself, not how many people worked on it. Yeah sure it's impressive when an artist does all the work on their own album and I appreciate that, but going around and acting like an album does not deserve praise or accolades because it has a large team behind it is laughable. Not to mention that Renaissance has a huge list of credits (bigger than Bey's previous work) because it heavily borrows samples, which requires credits. And before anyone brings that up as a bad thing, it absolutely isn't and you'd have to be completely oblivious about music to think that. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,004 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, alsemanche said: Y'all LOVE this empty 'argument' lmaooo We've known Beyonce has a big team behind her for years, why does it need to be brought up every time her work is mentioned? Her work is still great regardless of how many people contribute to it. No one has ever said that an artist needs to do everything on their own to produce good art. ROM has like 8 writers and 3 or 4 producers, SFA has over 10 writers and over 5 producers, even Venus has 6 writers, yet I don't see anyone dragging them for not being solely written by Gaga herself (and/or the feature) lol. We're judging the body of work itself, not how many people worked on it. Yeah sure it's impressive when an artist does all the work on their own album and I appreciate that, but going around and acting like an album does not deserve praise or accolades because it has a large team behind it is laughable. Not to mention that Renaissance has a huge list of credits (bigger than Bey's previous work) because it heavily borrows samples, which requires credits. And before anyone brings that up as a bad thing, it absolutely isn't and you'd have to be completely oblivious about music to think that. That is what I precisely believe separates people like Taylor Adele and Gaga from people like Beyoncé and Britney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 oh look, Gaga fans dragging other female artists, what else is new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 7:52 AM, C Rose said: I enjoyed some songs on 30, but I enjoyed Renaissance more. There are still some highlights in 30, like To Be Loved, Oh My God and I Drink Wine. Honestly, I dont know what else can Beyonce do to get AOTY. Anyway, we know how the Grammys work... If Beyonce does not win this time, I feel they will lose credibility. Imo Renaissance is definitely not AOTY though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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