Azealia drags Madonna

[HotLikeMexico 4,664]

33 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

It is about race though. Madonna didn’t open any doors regarding sexuality or sexual expression for women of color. And her asserting her “dominance” over Cardi and even Kim who is Armenian is a problem.

Having grills does not make her a gangsta, and if she wants to **** around she can find out. 

Kim is “white”. 

[Chlorine 47,975]

1 minute ago, HotLikeMexico said:

Kim is “white”. 

Armenian American is not "white" the way Italian American is. Don't act obtuse. 

[moonsago 6,579]

Just now, Frank Potion said:

Stopped reading after this.

Have a nice day and stay comfortable in your "I don't see color" "all lives matter" lala land. 

And of course you jumped to those conclusions, because god forbid somebody disagree with your illogical opinions, they FOR SURE must ‘not see color’ or support the idea of ‘all lives matter’. Again, ASSUMPTIONS, wrong ones too, but anyways, we both know you read it, you just can’t take honesty. 

[Chlorine 47,975]

2 minutes ago, moonsago said:

we both know you read it, you just can’t take honesty. 

2 minutes ago, moonsago said:

Again, ASSUMPTIONS,

Bye girl! 

[moonsago 6,579]

Just now, Frank Potion said:

Bye girl! 

Only love girl, only love your way. 

[ThePerfectCure 244]

1 minute ago, Frank Potion said:

Armenian American is not "white" the way Italian American is. Don't act obtuse. 

If this is true, then Gaga’s 911 film, inspired by an ARMENIAN film, The Color of Pomegranates, would be considered cultural appropriation. I am part Italian and have ALWAYS considered myself white, because I am. Can we just end it? Sometimes people make assumptions of racism. It’s just a fact. It shouldn’t offend people. Madonna has ALWAYS been supportive of minorities. She loves the Latin and black communities. She HAS paved the way for females in the music industry, including Gaga (whether we like the shade towards Gaga or not). Stating the obvious does not make her racist. Madonna has every right to remind the GP of her icon status.

[ThePerfectCure 244]

2 minutes ago, ThePerfectCure said:

If this is true, then Gaga’s 911 film, inspired by an ARMENIAN film, The Color of Pomegranates, would be considered cultural appropriation. I am part Italian and have ALWAYS considered myself white, because I am. Can we just end it? Sometimes people make assumptions of racism. It’s just a fact. It shouldn’t offend people. Madonna has ALWAYS been supportive of minorities. She loves the Latin and black communities. She HAS paved the way for females in the music industry, including Gaga (whether we like the shade towards Gaga or not). Stating the obvious does not make her racist. Madonna has every right to remind the GP of her icon status.

And I can’t believe anyone would not take Azealia’s words with a grain of salt. Gaga herself has said before how much of a **** she is.

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3 minutes ago, ThePerfectCure said:

If this is true, then Gaga’s 911 film, inspired by an ARMENIAN film, The Color of Pomegranates, would be considered cultural appropriation.

Is the Color of Pomegranates actually about Armenian culture? Or just an Armenian film? I legitimately don't know

4 minutes ago, ThePerfectCure said:

Madonna has ALWAYS been supportive of minorities. She loves the Latin and black communities. She HAS paved the way for females in the music industry, including Gaga (whether we like the shade towards Gaga or not). Stating the obvious does not make her racist. Madonna has every right to remind the GP of her icon status.

Yeah idk the whole conversation tbh but I would say artists like Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Grace Jones, even Missy Elliott did more for women of color than Madonna.

So if black artists are getting pissed off at Madonna, yet again, stroking that overinflated ego of hers the I don't blame them 

Her trailblazing is massively undercut by the fact that she puts other, newer artists down and constantly tries to lord over them that she was one of the first pop girls to be sexy on stage.

I dislike her for her gross behavior with MJ and even though they buried the hatchet, I'll never get over how sh*tty she was to Gaga. If you're not gonna lift up other artists then you "opening the door" doesn't mean a damn thing

/Anti-Madge rant

[moonsago 6,579]

15 minutes ago, HotLikeMexico said:

There were several users in previous thread using this same logic to discredit Madonna. Really stupid honestly. 

Well of course because she’s a white woman so whatever she accomplished is irrelevant... god forbid she did something before anybody else that is not white. It’s getting so ridiculous that it’s sad. And after all this madness goes away you know who the people that will have to face all this new animosity will be? Black people, gay people, trans people, etc. AKA us. And it’s happening, look at the rise in homophobia for example in the last couple of years. Things are getting out of control, there is not more sanity behind the initial good intentions in those conversations. And if you dare say something about it ( and criticize your own group of people ) you immediately get called one of the other ones. Cause it’s all about liberals vs conversatives. Nobody stops to realize that the answer is in the middle where balance exists and conversations exist. Nobody wants to have conversations,  look at the pervious person I talked to. You say something they can’t handle and ‘bye period’. So stupid and so sad. 

[Chlorine 47,975]

8 minutes ago, ThePerfectCure said:

If this is true, then Gaga’s 911 film, inspired by an ARMENIAN film, The Color of Pomegranates, would be considered cultural appropriation. I am part Italian and have ALWAYS considered myself white, because I am. Can we just end it? Sometimes people make assumptions of racism. It’s just a fact. It shouldn’t offend people. Madonna has ALWAYS been supportive of minorities. She loves the Latin and black communities. She HAS paved the way for females in the music industry, including Gaga (whether we like the shade towards Gaga or not). Stating the obvious does not make her racist. Madonna has every right to remind the GP of her icon status.

I’m not going to comment on Gaga.

But yes Madonna does love minorities. Especially when they’re young, Puerto Rican and unc*t! 

[HotLikeMexico 4,664]

23 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

Armenian American is not "white" the way Italian American is. Don't act obtuse. 

Before name calling, maybe actually do some research. Armenians are considered “white”. 

[PartySick 147,639]

2 minutes ago, moonsago said:

Well of course because she’s a white woman so whatever she accomplished is irrelevant... god forbid she did something before anybody else that is not white. It’s getting so ridiculous that it’s sad. And after all this madness goes away you know who the people that will have to face all this new animosity will be? Black people, gay people, trans people, etc. AKA us. And it’s happening, look at the rise in homophobia for example in the last couple of years. Things are getting out of control, there is not more sanity behind the initial good intentions in those conversations. And if you dare say something about it ( and criticize your own group of people ) you immediately get called one of the other ones. Cause it’s all about liberals vs conversatives. Nobody stops to realize that the answer is in the middle where balance exists and conversations exist. Nobody wants to have conversations,  look at the pervious person I talked to. You say something they can’t handle and ‘bye period’. So stupid and so sad. 

Are...you blaming the rise in bigotry on the targets of said bigotry?

And the middle where? If you can find common ground with racists/homophobes/transphobes/sexists/etc then I worry about your own morality

I'm gonna lock this thread 'cause this "conversation" is really useless