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jaXXXon
22 hours ago, LateToCult said:

Babes, none of that matters when she crushes the single most important market in the world.

Babes, yes it does because world tours bring in massive $$$ from Europe as well (especially France) and her being a "who?" for most Europeans surely isn't all that impressive compared to other acts that do well everywhere. Ronaldo is a huge name outside of the US and Canada but Bieber is still the bigger star because he's famous everywhere. 

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jimmytimestep
On 10/22/2022 at 10:26 AM, Thomas P said:

I know it goes without saying, but lead singles truly aren’t necessary nowadays, in fact i think she benefited from not having one. 

This 100%. I wonder if Renaissance would have done better without BMS.

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jaXXXon
23 hours ago, MessyTop said:

Sorry to say that but it don’t matter. USA is the biggest market in the world. 

Garth Brooks sold more records than Whitney Houston in the US. That doesn't make him more famous than Whitney in Europe, Latin America and Japan. 

Taylor is basically the Garth Brooks of today. She's absolutely NOT a bigger star than Gaga when Gaga is famous in every country in the world despite not breaking records in the US anymore. 

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MessyTop
1 minute ago, jaXXXon said:

Garth Brooks sold more records than Whitney Houston in the US. That doesn't make him more famous than Whitney in Europe, Latin America and Japan. 

Taylor is basically the Garth Brooks of today. She's absolutely NOT a bigger star than Gaga when Gaga is famous in every country in the world despite not breaking records in the US anymore. 

Nobody in here said she’s a bigger star then anyone else. 
taylor is selling albums like no other artist in the current US market. The biggest and most lucrative in the world. That’s it. 

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On 10/23/2022 at 2:03 PM, MessyTop said:

 

omg this is CRAZY considering the decline in sales in the industry

no one will be able to break her record

mother, what must i do?
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LateToCult
18 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

Babes, yes it does because world tours bring in massive $$$ from Europe as well (especially France) and her being a "who?" for most Europeans surely isn't all that impressive compared to other acts that do well everywhere. Ronaldo is a huge name outside of the US and Canada but Bieber is still the bigger star because he's famous everywhere. 

Mainland Europe isn’t as hot of a market as you’re making it out to be. Most American artists make significantly less per ticket there than they do in the US/Canada. Taylor recoups that money by stopping by less popular markets like Louisville, Columbus, and Cleveland. She’s absolutely fine not getting any love from Europe when she receives twice as much from the US compared to other contemporary touring acts.

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TheFame Monster
26 minutes ago, MessyTop said:

Serving Chromatica Jockstrap realness :derpga:

 

It’s just a ramen seasoning packet 

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jaXXXon
6 hours ago, NATAH said:

omg this is CRAZY considering the decline in sales in the industry

no one will be able to break her record

Adele's 25 opened bigger, so that's the record to beat. 

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jaXXXon
6 hours ago, LateToCult said:

Mainland Europe isn’t as hot of a market as you’re making it out to be. Most American artists make significantly less per ticket there than they do in the US/Canada. Taylor recoups that money by stopping by less popular markets like Louisville, Columbus, and Cleveland. She’s absolutely fine not getting any love from Europe when she receives twice as much from the US compared to other contemporary touring acts.

It's not just about mainland Europe but Latin America and Japan as well. You can't call someone the biggest global act when she's not. 

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Tyler1992
On 10/22/2022 at 9:45 AM, badfaith said:

Playing it safe made her fanbase so big :giveup:

I can’t believe I am defending Taylor Swift… But her first three albums are country music albums. If Taylor were playing it safe she would have stayed in that lane like so many artists that come out of Nashville. Instead she chose to develop to where she is now. Crossing from country to pop is rarely successful, and she has had so much **** to deal with it to get here. 

Sure, her risks are calculated and not always obvious. But you gotta give it to her for where she is now. 

 

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