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Putin launches mass attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine


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bpmMonkey
6 minutes ago, mdvdyk said:

It's ridiculous that you victimize yourself in a post that talks about the bombing of an entire country.

I find it quite disgusting to force people to compare their trauma just for the sake of you making a point. Maybe next time think before posting. Thanks 

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LilyLark
33 minutes ago, Aussie said:

Thing is though, most western countries and others have supported Ukraine 100% and not only have provided weapons, ammunition and supplies they also lost their gas supply and facing freezing winters in Europe, inflation has hit record highs around the world and this is due to countries sticking to what is right. 
 

Sadly as we have seen time and time again further “interference” can lead to even worse escalations and even lack of long term solutions. It’s nightmare and breaks my heart, not just for Ukraine but for every nation that is going through such hells either from war or famine. Globally we are still at the mercy of so much evil and can’t seem to figure out how to stop this from happening again and again

Air defense systems isn't really an escalation imo. I'm not saying put boots on the ground-that would be WW3-but heavy weapons/air defense systems so they can support themselves isn't an 'escalation', as long as they are told to use them in Ukrainian borders and occupied Ukrainian land.

The gas issue is the problem with the EU in general. Everyone said Nord Stream 2 was a terrible idea-not just environmentally but because of Putin. But to stop supplying weapons to Ukraine because Putin might jack up gas prices...well that's just going to confirm to him that he can get away with his genocidal war. And there are alternatives, the EU is just dithering about it.

I'm generally anti intervention unless there is actual genocide (Rwanda, one of the few times NATO should have intervened and did not, Kosovo, and now Ukraine). But there are levels of anti interventionism, and not supplying weapons when a literal genocide is going on just seems completely immoral.

Anyway, I still believe my main point stands that leaving aside all morals and emotions about whether or not to supply weapons to a country that is currently being subject to a genocidal war...if everyone stopped giving Ukraine weapons Putin would overrun the country. And if he wins Ukraine, there's a very good chance he won't stop as he's said he believes several NATO countries do not have the right to exist and he's acting irrationally. And then, then, WW3 will break out, which will be so much worse than what's already going on.

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Morphine Prince

This was expected after the Crimea bridge bombing. 

Ukraine is humiliating Russia and Putin is getting desperate. 

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CannaeDrive

Putrid had a fit like the sick man child that he really is, so he's lobbing his expensive missiles on innocent civilians in a mass murdering action. Not military objectives or anything to support his retreating army, just mass terrorism on defenseless population. Pathetically tragic.

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6 hours ago, Guest said:

It's ridiculous that you victimize yourself in a post that talks about the bombing of an entire country.

Forgive me if it offends you that a Russian clarifies what is happening in the world.

So you made a guest account just to insult someone how pathetic 

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SharkmanthaC
18 minutes ago, Suuus said:

So you made a guest account just to insult someone how pathetic 

No. They were warned for their posts then asked for an account deletion. We gladly obliged. 

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17 minutes ago, SamanthaC said:

No. They were warned for their posts then asked for an account deletion. We gladly obliged. 

They came back as a guest

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9 hours ago, Dennis said:

maybe we start with giving them air defenses quickly, not in years or months, but now. How is this gonna start WW3? You're playing into putin hands if you're going to be intimidated into not helping people who are being bombed on a daily basis.

And even beyond this, think of how many other power hungry leaders are sitting around and watching the rest of the world wag their fingers and furrow their brows but refrain from actually stepping in. We risk emboldening future attempts at invading sovereign nations because they know the “West” won’t step in. Ukraine has worldwide support but basically received the equivalent of a GoFundMe and a “good luck.”

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HarleyQuinGa2022
9 hours ago, Dennis said:

maybe we start with giving them air defenses quickly, not in years or months, but now. How is this gonna start WW3? You're playing into putin hands if you're going to be intimidated into not helping people who are being bombed on a daily basis.

Absolutely agree with you. Putin has been allowed to terrorize Ukraine far too long and everyone is hiding behind the imaginary threat of WWIII if they actually stand up to Putin. 

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HarleyQuinGa2022
9 hours ago, Aleksa said:

The "west" should fix this sh*t since they created this mess...as always...

No. The delusions of a mentally ill leader that has held power for far too long is the cause of this. His delusions about the Russian Empire and imaginary threats and his desire for more territory is the cause of this. How those around him have enabled him and haven’t eliminated him years ago are the cause of this. 

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Just now, HarleyQuinGa2022 said:

Absolutely agree with you. Putin has been allowed to terrorize Ukraine far too long and everyone is hiding behind the imaginary threat of WWIII if they actually stand up to Putin. 

The problem is, it’s not an imaginary threat and Russia is not the only threat right now.

China and its allies want The West and Russia to tear each other apart and possibly escalate the war to nukes.  The West would no doubt win but the problem is that China knows that if it was ever going to take on the West, post-Russian war would be the perfect time.  Budgets will be blown, populations would’ve had enough of war and casualties would already be high if nukes were used.

An escalation in the war with Russia could lead into WW3 due to those waiting in the wings.

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StarstruckIllusion
16 minutes ago, HarleyQuinGa2022 said:

Absolutely agree with you. Putin has been allowed to terrorize Ukraine far too long and everyone is hiding behind the imaginary threat of WWIII if they actually stand up to Putin. 

Oh wow. This is actually a worse take than any “NATO is an anti-russia terrorist org so no wonder they popped off.” This isn’t the thread to talk about this but the threat is absolutely not imaginary and I highly suggest doing more research into this…

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SharkmanthaC
1 hour ago, Suuus said:

They came back as a guest

No I promise you they are gone.

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TEANUS
9 hours ago, Aleksa said:

The "west" should fix this sh*t since they created this mess...as always...

Are you serious??? Ever heard of Putin?

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