Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said: I'm only up for a discussion tbh. Replying like this is just gonna get this thread closed. Of course women can be primary abusers. In this case though it's more likely to be JD due to his past history of abusive behaviour and his pretty disgusting views on women in general. This man has been a POS for a very long time. I just find it wierd that said that johnny has an abusive past never aknowledge that amber also has an abusive past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DpHitch1992 1,142 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Suuus said: I just find it wierd that said that johnny has an abusive past never aknowledge that amber also has an abusive past Because she doesn't have an abusive past? I remember reading she had a fight with her Ex girlfriend but her ex has come out and stated the situation was blown out of proportion. If your talking about the abuse between her and JD then I have already explained my opinion on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said: Because she doesn't have an abusive past? I remember reading she had a fight with her Ex girlfriend but her ex has come out and stated the situation was blown out of proportion. If your talking about the abuse between her and JD then I have already explained my opinion on that. Yes shet she does her mother and sister were literally scared of her and its clear to me that you are willingly ignoring all the bad stuff amber has done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterBones 238 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said: I think you should maybe do some research on Cohesive control and the power dynamics in domestic abuse cases. Also DARVO tactics (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender,). No one here is claiming AH is this perfect person. BUT. It's very likely JD was the primary abuser which most likely pushed AH to also be violent and abusive back ( She admitted this in the trial). She's not an angel. Mutual abuse is a bit of a myth in domestic abuse cases. It usually starts with a primary abuser and then turns ugly. Well..he had 11 lawyers ( Amber only had 3) and they did a brilliant job painting her this way such as Edited video's taken out of context, blocking her medical records from being allowed as evidence aswell as text messages from Johnny’s staff saying how he had kicked/attacked her etc. And alot more damming testimonies. All of this was aloud in the UK trial btw. His lawyers blocked this because they knew it was damming. I respect your opinion but there is alot more too this then just watching the trial. I also think the earth is round How can you watch stuff like this and not realize Amber is the instigator? I uses to support her FWIW. But the long audio files and her 2016 deposition shows her for exactly what she is. A manipulative, lying, sociopath who think she’s so much smarter than she is. Who used the very real issue of gendered violence against women and attempted to use her womanhood to spin this disgusting lie. She is absolutely gross. In that 1hr audio Johnny Depp is literally borderline begging her to leave his apartment and she flat out is refusing even when he calls her an Uber and she just won’t get in it. When he says to her if you don’t leave I’m gonna call the police, she turns around and tells him she will call them first. She’s begging him to love her, then she flips on him when he says he can’t deal with her crap any more and goes on a tirade, then she pretends to leave and comes back at the end when he’s literally sleeping and tries talking to him all sweetly while he’s clearly half asleep, after just verbally abusing him. Look by the 48 minute mark with the conversation about the water glass, look how patronizing and incessant she is till he gives in to her. Mind you, this was after they broke up and she claimed she was terrified of him. And she was the one who was abused? LMAO, yeah by her own self maybe. She’s deranged and crazy as ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Discoshtick said: How can you watch stuff like this and not realize Amber is the instigator? I uses to support her FWIW. But the long audio files and her 2016 deposition shows her for exactly what she is. A manipulative, lying, sociopath who think she’s so much smarter than she is. Who used the very real issue of gendered violence against women and attempted to use her womanhood to spin this disgusting lie. She is absolutely gross. In that 1hr audio Johnny Depp is literally borderline begging her to leave his apartment and she flat out is refusing even when he calls her an Uber and she just won’t get in it. When he says to her if you don’t leave I’m gonna call the police, she turns around and tells him she will call them first. She’s begging him to love her, then she flips on him when he says he can’t deal with her crap any more and goes on a tirade, then she pretends to leave and comes back at the end when he’s literally sleeping and tries talking to him all sweetly while he’s clearly half asleep, after just verbally abusing him. Look by the 48 minute mark with the conversation about the water glass, look how patronizing and incessant she is till he gives in to her. Mind you, this was after they broke up and she claimed she was terrified of him. And she was the one who was abused? LMAO, yeah by her own self maybe. She’s deranged and crazy as ****. Dont bother this person refuses to aknowledge any wrong amber has done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterBones 238 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Their actual couples therapist who also said in the freaking trial that AH was extremely prideful and SAID with her own mouth that she would initiate fights when she felt that she was being disrespected, that she [Amber] talked over Johnny constantly & she [therapist] had to reinstate to Amber that she has to let him talk if they want to have a productive session. The same therapist also recorded that during the session Amber told her that due to her Father beating her in her youth, that if she felt JD “triggered” her she would hit him first as an action to show she was dominant, therapist also reported that Amber asked her if she would “have an advantage” if she left him and filed for abuse first. She also told the therapist she slapped him once, because he was “incoherent” from drugs and was supposedly talking about a woman which “triggered” her. All here: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DpHitch1992 1,142 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Discoshtick said: How can you watch stuff like this and not realize Amber is the instigator? I uses to support her FWIW. But the long audio files and her 2016 deposition shows her for exactly what she is. A manipulative, lying, sociopath who think she’s so much smarter than she is. Who used the very real issue of gendered violence against women and attempted to use her womanhood to spin this disgusting lie. She is absolutely gross. In that 1hr audio Johnny Depp is literally borderline asking her to leave his apartment and she flat out is refusing even when he calls her an Uber and she won’t get in it. When he says to her if you don’t leave I’m gonna call the police, she turns around and tells him she will call them first. She’s begging him to love her, then she flips on him when he says he can’t deal with her crap any more and goes on a tirade, then she pretends to leave and comes back at the end when he’s literally sleeping and tries talking to him all sweetly while he’s clearly half asleep, after just verbally abusing him. Look by the 48 minute mark with the conversation about the water glass, look how patronizing and incessant she is till he gives in to her. Mind you, this was after they broke up and she claimed she was terrified of him. And she was the one who was abused? LMAO, yeah by her own self maybe. She’s deranged and crazy as ****. I'm getting a bit sick of these video's being used as smoking gun evidence tbh. There are plenty of video's of JD speaking about how he attacked her aswell as blatantly gas lighting her. Legal experts, respected lawyers and Advocates for Domestic abuse victims around the world are shocked by the Depp vs heard trial verdict. It's a bit jarring that some people on this site can't see this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 44,221 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 how is this still open? make this the heard vs depp megathread where everyone can argue pls and thank u mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DpHitch1992 1,142 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I feel like I've said what I've needed to say and I've been respectfull while doing so. I'm outa here. Anyone who is interested in learning more about domestic abuse and the complexity of it. I seriously recommend listening to former scotland yard Laura richards. She has done some amazing work and spearheaded law reform into domestic abuse cases and the importance of understanding cohesive control. https://www.crime-analyst.com/87-the-crime-analyst-ep-87-depp-vs-heard-trial-and-verdict-with-rabia-chaudry-part-1/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, NATAH said: how is this still open? make this the heard vs depp megathread where everyone can argue pls and thank u 11 minutes ago, Discoshtick said: Their actual couples therapist who also said in the freaking trial that AH was extremely prideful and SAID with her own mouth that she would initiate fights when she felt that she was being disrespected, that she [Amber] talked over Johnny constantly & she [therapist] had to reinstate to Amber that she has to let him talk if they want to have a productive session. The same therapist also recorded that during the session Amber told her that due to her Father beating her in her youth, that if she felt JD “triggered” her she would hit him first as an action to show she was dominant, therapist also reported that Amber asked her if she would “have an advantage” if she left him and filed for abuse first. She also told the therapist she slapped him once, because he was “incoherent” from drugs and was supposedly talking about a woman which “triggered” her. All here: Johny was abused by his mother so this must have been triggering for him aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, NATAH said: how is this still open? make this the heard vs depp megathread where everyone can argue pls and thank u I know right i exspected it to be closed by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 11,756 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Suuus said: Dont bother this person refuses to aknowledge any wrong amber has done This is not true at all it's the other way around actually A discussion can't be had without acknowledgement they both did wrong, which there is lots of evidence for. If you start at that point then you can discuss who was instigator and stuff like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterBones 238 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said: I'm getting a bit sick of these video's being used as smoking gun evidence tbh. There are plenty of video's of JD speaking about how he attacked her aswell as blatantly gas lighting her. Legal experts, respected lawyers and Advocates for Domestic abuse victims around the world are shocked by the Depp vs heard trial verdict. It's a bit jarring that some people on this site can't see this. There aren’t “plenty” of videos to show he attacked her at all, and the so-called “gaslighting“ is literally just him trying to placate her when she’s in one of hysterical fits. A very small amount of legal experts and DV victims that vocalize online are surprised she didn’t win, the overwhelming majority can see that Amber Heard is a liar. I was not part of that majority until several weeks ago. The woman lies and lies and lies. I really wanted to believe nobody would lie about something like she did especially when so many women actually are abused by their s/o’s, so I chose to believe her, by the end of the trial I was pretty much convincing myself to believe her. But the evidence against her is too much to believe now. Johnny Depp was the one who reacted to abuse, she was 100% the instigator of it. Im sure you’re fed up of my videos but cmon look man, this woman is just so unserious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ivy said: This is not true at all it's the other way around actually A discussion can't be had without acknowledgement they both did wrong, which there is lots of evidence for. If you start at that point then you can discuss who was instigator and stuff like that I was quoting a specific user not you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 11,756 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Suuus said: I was quoting a specific user not you I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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