Amber Heard releases a statement

[SharkmanthaC 114,697]

10 minutes ago, ChavaWM said:

Being abused for years in almost every relationship I've ever been in. I'm happy with the verdict. She's a gas lighter. She never feared him. She set up cameras, laughed in his face, verbally abused him, hit him, brought other guys over to their place. Someone living in fear of someone does not do that. I would NEVER in a million years laugh in the face of my abuser. I wouldn't even make a joke. Because I did live in fear. I did get hit. Someone who gets abused doesn't fight back the way she egged him and made fun of him in all those recordings. I can't even imagine what would've happened to me of I ever set up a camera and recorded my abuser. I get goosebumps just thinking about it and it's been years.

You bring up a good point. While my relationship wasn’t physically abusive there were times when I was afraid it would turn that way. I can’t imagine how things would turn if I tried to record the things that were said to me. It makes me sick in the pit of my stomach to even think about. 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

41 minutes ago, pedrohemg said:

For those few, including Admin, still defending AH, read one of the questions the seven members of the jury had to answer:

“Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our cultures wrath for women who speak out.”

Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation? - YES

The statement was false? - YES

The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard? - YES

In other words, the jury said she wasn't abused.

 

The UK trial proved he abused her on 12 acounts. He lost that trial.

So much evidence from the UK trial was blocked by Depps lawyers in this trial. A ridiculous amount. 

I'll stand with a judges decision that knows how to look at evidence and has an understanding of the law rather than a Jury decision that was heavily influenced by social media. They couldn't even fill in the forms properly! 

 

 

 

[Daenerys 6,127]

1 hour ago, DpHitch1992 said:

The UK trial proved he abused her on 12 acounts. He lost that trial.

So much evidence from the UK trial was blocked by Depps lawyers in this trial. A ridiculous amount. 

I'll stand with a judges decision that knows how to look at evidence and has an understanding of the law rather than a Jury decision that was heavily influenced by social media. They couldn't even fill in the forms properly! 

 

 

 

The evidence was blocked because it was heresay evidence which was allowed in the UK trial. 
 

on top of that, the judge had ties to Ambers inner circle plus his son worked for The Sun, which the publication won. 
 

the judge based his judgement off of Ambers testimony which was not subject to discovery like the Virginia case, which during discovery proved that Amber edited metadata and edited pictures to make them look like she had injuries on her. 
 

The judge didn't rule she was abused 12 times, he ruled The Sun didn't defame him because they felt their witness, Amber, was credible enough for them to run the article. 
 

which now after this trial in Virginia, the lies she said in the UK are now under investigation which you can see here:

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10824453/amp/Amber-Heard-face-perjury-probe-star-admitted-NOT-giving-3-5m-divorce-charity.html

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/style/amber-heard-warned-she-could-190000183.html

To add salt to her wounds, she’s also under perjury investigation in Australia 

https://nypost.com/2022/05/19/amber-heard-under-investigation-in-australia-for-perjury/amp/

 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

27 minutes ago, Daenerys said:

The evidence was blocked because it was heresay evidence which was allowed in the UK trial. 
 

on top of that, the judge had ties to Ambers inner circle plus his son worked for The Sun, which the publication won. 
 

the judge based his judgement off of Ambers testimony which was not subject to discovery like the Virginia case, which during discovery proved that Amber edited metadata and edited pictures to make them look like she had injuries on her. 
 

The judge didn't rule she was abused 12 times, he ruled The Sun didn't defame him because they felt their witness, Amber, was credible enough for them to run the article. 
 

which now after this trial in Virginia, the lies she said in the UK are now under investigation which you can see here:

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10824453/amp/Amber-Heard-face-perjury-probe-star-admitted-NOT-giving-3-5m-divorce-charity.html

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/style/amber-heard-warned-she-could-190000183.html

To add salt to her wounds, she’s also under perjury investigation in Australia 

https://nypost.com/2022/05/19/amber-heard-under-investigation-in-australia-for-perjury/amp/

 

This has nothing to do with the evidence of abuse though?? So it's not really relevant. 

From the article that you linked- 

'Police could investigate it, but they probably would not prosecute it.  The case is not about what she spent her money on, but what took place during their relationship.' 

'I accept misleading a court is a big issue, but this is a line that Depp's team ran in London. How do you prove that she knew? She may have been given advice that the donations were made. 

The second article you linked is to do with her dogs being imported to Australia. Again, this has nothing to do with the mountains of evidence of abuse that was used in the UK trial.

 

[Daenerys 6,127]

9 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said:

This has nothing to do with the evidence of abuse though?? So it's not really relevant. 

From the article that you linked- 

'Police could investigate it, but they probably would not prosecute it.  The case is not about what she spent her money on, but what took place during their relationship.' 

'I accept misleading a court is a big issue, but this is a line that Depp's team ran in London. How do you prove that she knew? She may have been given advice that the donations were made. 

The second article you linked is to do with her dogs being imported to Australia. Again, this has nothing to do with the mountains of evidence of abuse that was used in the UK trial.

 

The point I’m making with these articles is to show that she’s been a liar, going all the way back to the issue with her dogs. 

im all for a cordial discussion if that’s where this is going to go. 

if there are these mountains of evidence out there that you can find, please show me. I can admit I’m wrong, and I’ll do it. What was brought into the Virginia courtroom was weak evidence, and if you can show me what you think to be true evidence then please link me to it. 
 

other than that, I’m siding with the trial I’ve been watching for the last 6 weeks

 

and with the evidence I’ve been seeing when I look through the court website. 

https://ffxtrail.azurewebsites.net/

 

 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

21 minutes ago, Daenerys said:

The point I’m making with these articles is to show that she’s been a liar, going all the way back to the issue with her dogs. 

im all for a cordial discussion if that’s where this is going to go. 

if there are these mountains of evidence out there that you can find, please show me. I can admit I’m wrong, and I’ll do it. What was brought into the Virginia courtroom was weak evidence, and if you can show me what you think to be true evidence then please link me to it. 
 

other than that, I’m siding with the trial I’ve been watching for the last 6 weeks

 

and with the evidence I’ve been seeing when I look through the court website. 

https://ffxtrail.azurewebsites.net/

 

 

Official UK Court documents-

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf

Here is a really good link that covers the myths of this case backed with sources and evidence from the court files. https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/v1bljh/list_of_ahjd_abuse_myths_debunked_part_2/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

 

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3 hours ago, ChavaWM said:

Being abused for years in almost every relationship I've ever been in, I'm happy with the verdict. She's a gas lighter. She never feared him. She set up cameras, laughed in his face, verbally abused him, hit him, brought other guys over to their place. Someone living in fear of someone does not do that. I would NEVER in a million years laugh in the face of my abuser. I wouldn't even make a joke. Because I did live in fear. I did get hit. Someone who gets abused doesn't fight back and egg on their abuser. Especially make fun of them the way she did in those recordings. I can't even imagine what would've happened to me of I ever set up a camera and recorded my abuser. I get goosebumps just thinking about it and it's been years.

I agree. I’m currently trying to escape an abusive relationship. My abusive boyfriend said that if I ever record him or expose him or anything if that sort he said he could have me killed. He already gave me a black eye a month ago today, with that he also squeezed his hands around my neck/collar bone area and he has slapped me across the face numerous times. So I couldn’t imagine the worse he would do to me if I ever recorded him or videotaped him. I still fear for my life in the times he gets drunk and gets out of control. So it definitely makes me physically ill to see a public figure like Amber Heard sit there and lie like that. I’m literally on the verge of tears writing this, and I’m shaking. It is so triggering for me. But I know that this is part of the process of growth and it is painful.

But with that said, that is how we know she is lying. If she was truly scared she wouldn’t have video taped him like that or laughed in his face. I agree with you.

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7 hours ago, Suuus said:

I dont see why thats insane and Maybe thats because men dont talk about their abuse because of the stigma surrounding it and now a man finally does and this  may encourage more male dv victims to come out about their exsperiences and male victims of dv deserve just as much support as women and im sorry but your comment confuses me

its a well known fact most domestic abuse victims are women, we live in a patriarchal society where men have been protected since the dawn of human existence. 

i agree with the decision but i cant believe how hes being regarded as a hero when i really do feel like he did stuff to her as well since he has a long long history with violence, several people in the last few decades have come forward to back up the fact that he has serious anger problems and hes being sued by a former colleague for punching him in the stomach, johnny is no stranger to violence and its not a secret. 

yet we have so many women coming forward with sexual assault cases and domestic violence cases and they get dismissed and swept under the rug. meanwhile one famous man comes forward and everyone rallies behind him - when we dont even know if hes 100% innocent in the situation. now ppl on the right says thie verdict is basically the end of the Metoo movement invalidating all women who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse. 

its all just riddled with sexism. 

like i said i agree in this case i agree johnny shouldve won, but i wish ppl protected women who are victims in the same way ppl are defending johnny  

[Daenerys 6,127]

55 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said:

Official UK Court documents-

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Judgment-FINAL.pdf

Here is a really good link that covers the myths of this case backed with sources and evidence from the court files. https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/v1bljh/list_of_ahjd_abuse_myths_debunked_part_2/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

 

The court judgement you provided is between Johnny and Dan Wootton and the Sun. There’s no evidence in those files besides quotes from transcripts that have no evidence to back up the claims that are in it. Would you be able to find those pieces and link it to this judgement that way I can put the timeline together? 
 

the Reddit post is mostly about the trial in Virginia. I understand you’re trying to make a point, I get it. 
it’s only mostly pointing out text messages, very disgusting text messages that yes, I agree, don’t look good for Johnny. But they’re just texts. Theyre not actual true statements of abuse. And one of those messages was an Incoming message meaning it was sent TO him, not sent BY him 

In regards to some takeaways to why I don’t believe amber, here are a few. 
 

Keenan Wyatt who was on the plane with them when Johnny allegedly went after Amber testified that Johnny didn’t hit Amber (5:35) 

Travis Johnny’s body guard also stated in his testimony that Amber was the one that would be violent 

LAPD officers testified under oath that they responded to Amber’s call and seen no injuries on her body 

Amber stated Johnny damaged a trailer, the owner of the trailer park said otherwise 

Audio of Amber crying after cutting off Johnny’s finger

And all of the audio played in the courtroom 

 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

2 minutes ago, Daenerys said:

The court judgement you provided is between Johnny and Dan Wootton and the Sun. There’s no evidence in those files besides quotes from transcripts that have no evidence to back up the claims that are in it. Would you be able to find those pieces and link it to this judgement that way I can put the timeline together? 
 

the Reddit post is mostly about the trial in Virginia. I understand you’re trying to make a point, I get it. 
it’s only mostly pointing out text messages, very disgusting text messages that yes, I agree, don’t look good for Johnny. But they’re just texts. Theyre not actual true statements of abuse. And one of those messages was an Incoming message meaning it was sent TO him, not sent BY him 

In regards to some takeaways to why I don’t believe amber, here are a few. 
 

Keenan Wyatt who was on the plane with them when Johnny allegedly went after Amber testified that Johnny didn’t hit Amber (5:35) 

Travis Johnny’s body guard also stated in his testimony that Amber was the one that would be violent 

LAPD officers testified under oath that they responded to Amber’s call and seen no injuries on her body 

Amber stated Johnny damaged a trailer, the owner of the trailer park said otherwise 

Audio of Amber crying after cutting off Johnny’s finger

And all of the audio played in the courtroom 

 

Thanks for giving them a look. Apologies for sending the wrong court files. 

I'm a bit drained with the topic atm lol

I'll defo give your videos a watch Aswell. 

Thanks for being civil about this though, I appreciate it. 

[Daenerys 6,127]

21 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said:

Thanks for giving them a look. Apologies for sending the wrong court files. 

I'm a bit drained with the topic atm lol

I'll defo give your videos a watch Aswell. 

Thanks for being civil about this though, I appreciate it. 

Ngl I’m drained from it too. Let’s just put this behind us. I appreciate you for taking the time to send over links. Let me go be messy in another thread because I hear one of our mods hates Scheisse and Venus, so I’m going to go sick my dragon on them. 

[freebit 6,240]

People behaving like this case is a stan war, and making gross memes will never not be disgusting to me. Everytime I think culture at large has grown we go 10 steps back and regress to where we started. 

17 hours ago, Levine said:

And yet she limited the comments lmao a clown till the end.

But I saw a thread about Depp's win yesterday, where is it? 

Can you blame her? People were threatening her baby, like, no matter what you think of Amber, that is awful. 

16 hours ago, gumzy3000 said:

The main focus of this whole case is the article she wrote for The Washington Post titled "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence — and faced our culture’s wrath. That has to change." 

The article did not even name Johnny, but was more about the fact men continue to have power in these situations. The fact Amber literally foreshadowed her future in the article title is chilling. 

While this is not a landmark case in the legal sense, the shift in culture this is going to bring is undeniable. Its only going to make it harder for victims to come forward, especially women and trans people. Victims are now going to be afraid they could be sued into bankruptcy for speaking out. This is going to embolden the Kavanaugh/Trump apologists, and this is basically the end of #MeToo. 

Make no mistake, Amber is a flawed and troubled person that has abused Depp, but the fact the jury did not believe a single claim that Johnny abused her is where I am stunned. I think they were mutually abusive. Even thier marriage counselor said there was mutual abuse. Her makeup artist admitted to covering bruises before she went on the James Corden show. Johnny has a substance problem that was known to bring out the "monster". There are text messages from Johnny's assistants about Johnny being sorry he kicked her. There are text messages Johnny sent to friends about him wanting to burn her and globally humiliate her. 

The jury, which was 5 men and 2 women, also should have been sequestered and the court cameras turned off. This was not a fair trial at all. The jury would have been influenced by the court of public opinion for such a polarizing and high profile case. In this regard, I hope Amber wins the appeal and the whole case is tossed out. Both of thier careers are pretty much over at this point. Johnny might recover more than Amber but I highly doubt Disney/Harry Potter will bring him back. 

I really don't care how unpopular my opinion is. I believe BOTH Amber and Johnny abused each other, but due to the vilification of Amber through the online attacks, the misogyny in our culture/society, and popularity of Johnny Depp, Amber got punished more while Johnny is walking away mostly unharmed. The man was clearly not a saint as his fans like to think. 

I hope all the people who took part in tearing apart an "unperfect victim" like Amber on social media are happy. You have unleashed a beast that is going to affect our culture, society and even legal system for decades to come. 

 

Yeah, Amber didn't even name names, and look at what happened. Whether you hate her or not, and love Depp, people are not looking at the big picture here. 

Also would not be surprised if the man that Depp assaulted is going to settle out of court now. 

[Suuus 5,632]

2 hours ago, jeremiahsaint1000 said:

its a well known fact most domestic abuse victims are women, we live in a patriarchal society where men have been protected since the dawn of human existence. 

i agree with the decision but i cant believe how hes being regarded as a hero when i really do feel like he did stuff to her as well since he has a long long history with violence, several people in the last few decades have come forward to back up the fact that he has serious anger problems and hes being sued by a former colleague for punching him in the stomach, johnny is no stranger to violence and its not a secret. 

yet we have so many women coming forward with sexual assault cases and domestic violence cases and they get dismissed and swept under the rug. meanwhile one famous man comes forward and everyone rallies behind him - when we dont even know if hes 100% innocent in the situation. now ppl on the right says thie verdict is basically the end of the Metoo movement invalidating all women who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse. 

its all just riddled with sexism. 

like i said i agree in this case i agree johnny shouldve won, but i wish ppl protected women who are victims in the same way ppl are defending johnny  

 Because i havent seen any of that also i doesnt matter if most victims are women ment deserve to be heard too and men dont talk about their abuse because of the stigma surroundingit and if he is really that violent then why did all his exes testify that he was voilent to them also do you have reciepts to back your claims and just because johnny isnt your perfect victim doesnt mean he deserves no support as a dv victim 

[Suuus 5,632]

6 hours ago, DpHitch1992 said:

The UK trial proved he abused her on 12 acounts. He lost that trial.

So much evidence from the UK trial was blocked by Depps lawyers in this trial. A ridiculous amount. 

I'll stand with a judges decision that knows how to look at evidence and has an understanding of the law rather than a Jury decision that was heavily influenced by social media. They couldn't even fill in the forms properly! 

 

 

 

I just love how you are ignoring the fact that amber lied under oath in that case 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

19 minutes ago, Suuus said:

I just love how you are ignoring the fact that amber lied under oath in that case 

And so did Johnny...many times lmao. I haven't said amber is an angel in any of this. Your very exhausting.