Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

[RAMROD 104,202]

Turns out, just like Chloe Zhao before him, the director for Multiverse of Madness , Sam Raimi, also never watches any MCU movies before, or even Wandavision. So it all makes sense now why it is what it is.

Feige really need to be strict on this the next time he appointed a director for future projects, especially since we have a whole universe that were built since 14 years ago. It's not just a one off project  anymore. All directors that about to film MCU movies to know the foundation before writing anything  next time

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19 hours ago, Reality said:

Yeah, it certainly feels like they leaned into relying on WandaVision too much, which ironically, both helped and hindered them. I think by relying on WandaVision so much, you get the sense that "Hey, this Disney+ show that was released last year actually does matter in the grand scheme of things. It's going to have actual consequences for the rest of the MCU," which I know has been a common complaint amongst some people. Many thought that the MCU D+ shows so far have had little consequence to the overall MCU—which is a completely different topic, but nevertheless I disagree with that critique.

But because the jump from WandaVision to MoM seems so sudden, people are like, "Ummm..This doesn't really make sense though. The Wanda in this movie seems completely different than the one in WandaVision." It's funky because even though I really, really enjoyed this movie, I think most of its critiques are valid and I actually tend to agree with some of them. It's an interesting viewing experience, that's for sure  

Oh I enjoyed the movie, too, on the whole! Hahaha

[Anveeroy 57,869]

It should be named- "Wanda: A Mother's Rage". 

The movie was good- but comparing to the first one- umm. ok. 

[Anveeroy 57,869]

Also, I think Elizabeth Olsen is the best actor in the Marvel Universe. The RANGE! 

[TMM90 2,975]

My fave MCU movie yet,

but not because of her acting - wich was a shock on its own.

[Reality 71,878]

21 hours ago, RAMROD said:

Turns out, just like Chloe Zhao before him, the director for Multiverse of Madness , Sam Raimi, also never watches any MCU movies before, or even Wandavision. So it all makes sense now why it is what it is.

Feige really need to be strict on this the next time he appointed a director for future projects, especially since we have a whole universe that were built since 14 years ago. It's not just a one off project  anymore. All directors that about to film MCU movies to know the foundation before writing anything  next time

I mean, but WandaVision and MoM were shooting around the same time, so I don't really understand the critique that, "Oh, Sam should've watched WandaVision before making MoM." It was literally impossible of him to do so because the two projects were being made at the same time.

He and Michael Waldron says that they get they collaborated with some of the WandaVision creatives, and obviously they're going to get a rundown of what happened in the show, but they couldn't possibly watch it before making the film. Also, I would imagine Elizabeth Olsen had input as to how to approach Wanda in MoM.

[NichuuB 43,788]

21 hours ago, RAMROD said:

Turns out, just like Chloe Zhao before him, the director for Multiverse of Madness , Sam Raimi, also never watches any MCU movies before, or even Wandavision. So it all makes sense now why it is what it is.

Feige really need to be strict on this the next time he appointed a director for future projects, especially since we have a whole universe that were built since 14 years ago. It's not just a one off project  anymore. All directors that about to film MCU movies to know the foundation before writing anything  next time

In my opinion the problem with the movie isn't, in any way, Sam raimi's fault, as the direction is one of the good things on the movie. The problem is with script. The writer is the same one as Loki's and we can notice how on both scripts there are lots of problems of them not being able to handle the plot properly

[NichuuB 43,788]

2 hours ago, Anveeroy said:

Also, I think Elizabeth Olsen is the best actor in the Marvel Universe. The RANGE! 

Actually, it's Bradley Cooper

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On 5/6/2022 at 9:46 AM, RAMROD said:

 

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Back in Spider-Man 3, when Multiverse characters comes, the variants that crossing over have different face and personalities. The same with Loki series. All those Loki shown are not all Tom Hiddleston.  But why does the ones on What If and this Multiverse of Madness movie are all looking similiar? Why can't variants Strange  starred by other actors instead of Cumberbatch in different hairstyle and outfits? Also Catherine and everyone else too.  

 

If i remember correctly: 

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In Loki they said that different variants can have the same or different looks/faces. I.e. why we got the "Vote" Loki that is played by Tom but some not played by Tom (the alligator, young loki, etc.) 

 

[nATAH 42,389]

i finally saw it today  i really liked it but some of the CGI was questionable... not as bad as black widow's CGI tho omg

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however did i miss something in the transition between Wanda being a hero in pain to an out-right villain? i've seen everything MCU and i thought WandaVision ended with her accepting her losses and unlocking her true power... did Strange just end up triggering her or something?

 

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2 minutes ago, NATAH said:

i finally saw it today  i really liked it but some of the CGI was questionable... not as bad as black widow's CGI tho omg

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however did i miss something in the transition between Wanda being a hero in pain to an out-right villain? i've seen everything MCU and i thought WandaVision ended with her accepting her losses and unlocking her true power... did Strange just end up triggering her or something?

 

the screenwriter really did a bad job on it. 

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i mean, wanda becoming a villain could work really fine, if the script was good

 

[River 104,991]

oook I finally saw it

I LOVE IT

@CyanLights @Reality @RAMROD

I read some WV / MoM

Wanda was always an up and down person, she saved people but raged on something else, she's working by emotions, not by sense.

WV introduced the kids and the Scarlet Witch and most importantly, it introduced a new tragedy in Wanda's life, she lost her kids and it's a greater tragedy than losing the love of her life, we saw in the last episode's after credit scene, that she's reading from the Darkhold and dreaming about the kids, the beginning of the corruption and the beginning of the idea to get the kids.

In WV she didn't save the people of Westview, she didn't have redemption, she had acceptance of Vision's death and along the way she let go of the fake life that she created, she could run the show (pun intended) for life, if she had no distractions along the way.

Now about the end, is she dead or not.. I believe what we saw was an illusion, she's the queen of illusions, never take what you as the true fact when it comes to Wanda, her giving away the Darkhold so easily, sounds very unlucky.

 

My question is, are all the Wandas from the different universes lives in the fake Westview ? are all the kids fake?

I must give applause to Blake Bolt's death, it was awesome, I didn't expect that

mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmm ahhh boom

[Reality 71,878]

1 hour ago, River said:

oook I finally saw it

I LOVE IT

@CyanLights @Reality @RAMROD

I read some WV / MoM

Wanda was always an up and down person, she saved people but raged on something else, she's working by emotions, not by sense.

WV introduced the kids and the Scarlet Witch and most importantly, it introduced a new tragedy in Wanda's life, she lost her kids and it's a greater tragedy than losing the love of her life, we saw in the last episode's after credit scene, that she's reading from the Darkhold and dreaming about the kids, the beginning of the corruption and the beginning of the idea to get the kids.

In WV she didn't save the people of Westview, she didn't have redemption, she had acceptance of Vision's death and along the way she let go of the fake life that she created, she could run the show (pun intended) for life, if she had no distractions along the way.

Now about the end, is she dead or not.. I believe what we saw was an illusion, she's the queen of illusions, never take what you as the true fact when it comes to Wanda, her giving away the Darkhold so easily, sounds very unlucky.

 

My question is, are all the Wandas from the different universes lives in the fake Westview ? are all the kids fake?

I must give applause to Blake Bolt's death, it was awesome, I didn't expect that

mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmm ahhh boom

I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT!!

I definitely don't think she's dead though. She's literally the most popular female MCU character right now, so they wouldn't kill her off like that. My theory/hope/wish is that she shows up in the Agatha show—whether that be a proper cameo or an end-credit scene thing.

As for Westview & her kids, honestly, I have no idea. The film didn't really explain that to us. The way I saw it was that the children were real and so was the house she was living in (i.e., I don't think it was a situation where she successfully just took over Westview forever). In the multiverse, there's infinite possibilities, so some of those possibilities must've included her having real children and her living in a real house.

[JgHaus78 1,856]

Perhaps she absorbed the darkhold at the very end and is now able to control the power of the book without risk of being corrupted, a story similar has happened in the comic books. 

[RAMROD 104,202]

2 hours ago, River said:

oook I finally saw it

I LOVE IT

@CyanLights @Reality @RAMROD

I read some WV / MoM

Wanda was always an up and down person, she saved people but raged on something else, she's working by emotions, not by sense.

WV introduced the kids and the Scarlet Witch and most importantly, it introduced a new tragedy in Wanda's life, she lost her kids and it's a greater tragedy than losing the love of her life, we saw in the last episode's after credit scene, that she's reading from the Darkhold and dreaming about the kids, the beginning of the corruption and the beginning of the idea to get the kids.

In WV she didn't save the people of Westview, she didn't have redemption, she had acceptance of Vision's death and along the way she let go of the fake life that she created, she could run the show (pun intended) for life, if she had no distractions along the way.

Now about the end, is she dead or not.. I believe what we saw was an illusion, she's the queen of illusions, never take what you as the true fact when it comes to Wanda, her giving away the Darkhold so easily, sounds very unlucky.

 

My question is, are all the Wandas from the different universes lives in the fake Westview ? are all the kids fake?

I must give applause to Blake Bolt's death, it was awesome, I didn't expect that

mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmm ahhh boom

 

16 minutes ago, Reality said:

I'M GLAD YOU LIKED IT!!

I definitely don't think she's dead though. She's literally the most popular female MCU character right now, so they wouldn't kill her off like that. My theory/hope/wish is that she shows up in the Agatha show—whether that be a proper cameo or an end-credit scene thing.

As for Westview & her kids, honestly, I have no idea. The film didn't really explain that to us. The way I saw it was that the children were real and so was the house she was living in (i.e., I don't think it was a situation where she successfully just took over Westview forever). In the multiverse, there's infinite possibilities, so some of those possibilities must've included her having real children and her living in a real house.

 

 

My personal impression believe those other multiverse Wandas actually get married to Vis and have kids. Cos remember, Vis is not a robot. He got human genes in him

 

And she definitely doesn't die. She is a Nexus being, rubbles like that can do nothing to her.

IMHO me may see Wanda next on Agatha series