Dojo 19,365 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, rinasawachanta said: She will win. I feel it. Mark my words.  i can feel it too sis, mark our words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,545 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, monstertoronto said: You personally can stay silent and do you.  Sheâs amazing on this record and clearly kn not the only one who thinks itâs AOTY material as itâs considered one of the main candidates to win by most media. But ydy whatever Yes she's very good on it but performing well on an album is hardly enough to win AOTY today. Back in the day an artist could get away with winning it on an album of covers or a live album, but if that sort of thing won today it would get dragged and I don't entirely disagree with the basis of what that dragging would be. She's great on it, but there is very little about the album that represents her artistry because it's not her music. Yes, a Grammy is a Grammy but call me crazy or whatever but I'd much rather her win for work that is uniquely hers over a covers album that does not even showcase the best versions of the songs. If it wins, good for her. But there will be lashings and it's best everyone prepares for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 8,779 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Mr Mendes said: Yes she's very good on it but performing well on an album is hardly enough to win AOTY today. Back in the day an artist could get away with winning it on an album of covers or a live album, but if that sort of thing won today it would get dragged and I don't entirely disagree with the basis of what that dragging would be. She's great on it, but there is very little about the album that represents her artistry because it's not her music. Yes, a Grammy is a Grammy but call me crazy or whatever but I'd much rather her win for work that is uniquely hers over a covers album that does not even showcase the best versions of the songs. I feel like people need to stop calling it a âcoversâ album. This isnât pop. In jazz they donât call them âcoversâ, these songs are standards.  Jazz isnât just about âoriginal songsâ jazz is partly about how different  artists interpret standards. The artistry is reflected in how artists interpret these songs. All the jazz greats have recorded albums with standards and the âthe great American songbookâ because they bring their own spin to the material and this is normal for the genre. Jazz is not the same as pop and its just as worthy of the top prize as pop.  Stop seeing everything through your own personal lens and realize there are genres of music that you not appreciate or understand but that doesnât make them less worthy to the world or the academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,545 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, monstertoronto said: I feel like people need to stop calling it a âcoversâ album. This isnât pop. In jazz they donât call them âcoversâ, these songs are standards.  Jazz isnât just about âoriginal songsâ jazz is partly about how different  artists interpret standards. The artistry is reflected in how artists interpret these songs. All the jazz greats have recorded albums with standards and the âthe great American songbookâ because they bring their own spin to the material and this is normal for the genre. Jazz is not the same as pop and its just as worthy of the top prize as pop.  Stop seeing everything through your own personal lens and realize there are genres of music that you not appreciate or understand but that doesnât make them less worthy to the world or the academy. First off, I am an incredibly appreciative of jazz. I studied violin for eight years and through those years I played many time as accompaniment for the jazz band at both their concerts and their competition. I'm well aware of what makes jazz special, well aware of what artists do with the Great American Songbook, and well aware that it's deserving of the same accolades as the genres of pop and rock and everything in between are. But what I'm saying is, that is not this album. And that's okay! Cheek to Cheek was a great example of what you talk about above, but Love for Sale is not. There is very little that is new to these versions of the songs, they're pretty straightforward interpretations of the songs as they were done in the 40s and the 50s. That's exactly the point of the whole record, it was purposefully designed to liken back to when these songs were doing the rounds on the nightclub circuit in the heydays of the jazz age. That's a great concept, I appreciate it for what it is. But what it isn't is an album of standards that have been reimagined to the artistry of Lady Gaga. It is an intentional throwback and emulation of the interpretations of artists who were doing it decades before her. And while that's cool, I don't think (and many others feel the exact same way, this is not just an opinion I alone share) that an album like this ought to be what gets her an award that is meant to celebrate something unique and brilliant that only the artist who made it could accomplish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 36,057 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, dojo said: i can feel it too sis, mark our words. Pls don't jinx it like that Oscar nom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby 271 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 let's gooooooo.. It actually makes sense because in recent years the Grammys have become worthless because of the rush with The Weeknd and Drake and also because it feels corrupt. winning a jazz album can bring back the quality of the Grammys as it was in the past. Electronic Pop Music Producer đšđ¸đś Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 8,779 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mr Mendes said: First off, I am an incredibly appreciative of jazz. I studied violin for eight years and through those years I played many time as accompaniment for the jazz band at both their concerts and their competition. I'm well aware of what makes jazz special, well aware of what artists do with the Great American Songbook, and well aware that it's deserving of the same accolades as the genres of pop and rock and everything in between are. But what I'm saying is, that is not this album. And that's okay! Cheek to Cheek was a great example of what you talk about above, but Love for Sale is not. There is very little that is new to these versions of the songs, they're pretty straightforward interpretations of the songs as they were done in the 40s and the 50s. That's exactly the point of the whole record, it was purposefully designed to liken back to when these songs were doing the rounds on the nightclub circuit in the heydays of the jazz age. That's a great concept, I appreciate it for what it is. But what it isn't is an album of standards that have been reimagined to the artistry of Lady Gaga. It is an intentional throwback and emulation of the interpretations of artists who were doing it decades before her. And while that's cool, I don't think (and many others feel the exact same way, this is not just an opinion I alone share) that an album like this ought to be what gets her an award that is meant to celebrate something unique and brilliant that only the artist who made it could accomplish. And I disagree with you. And thatâs okay too!  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGOT2027 10,807 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 even i as a stan have only listened to that album all the way through once. i'm hoping they win best duo and best traditional pop vocal album. i truly think they deserve both, and i hope at least one of these is televised. i don't really think music video or record of the year are necessary. and i just feel like AOTY would cause too much backlash. that being said, YAAAAS BRING ON THE ALBUM OF THE YEAR WIN YAAAAS WE CAN DO THIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 3,206 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Baby said: let's gooooooo.. It actually makes sense because in recent years the Grammys have become worthless because of the rush with The Weekend and Drake and also because it feels corrupt. winning a jazz album can bring back the quality of the Grammys as it was in the past. Let's hope they think like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 57,937 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 My bet she'll win 99% sure Traditional Pop and 75% sure Best collab. AOTY is a 50% chances I'd say. But it's very unlikely seeing the contenders.  I'll just hope LM won't be messy if she's not winning those big categories. It's more like an outsider situation we're in so, be pleasantly happy if we win. Be happy if we are losing because getting those categories for LFS is already great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahsaint1000 487 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 if basics like taylor can win, this cover album should be able to win too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 57,937 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, jeremiahsaint1000 said: if basics like taylor can win, this cover album should be able to win too Your comment actually make even more thinking Olivia will grab album of the year tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahsaint1000 487 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, monketsharona said: Your comment actually make even more thinking Olivia will grab album of the year tbh i could see that, the industry praises mediocrity nowadays hahahah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,024 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 If we had to live to see TFM lose its win for AOTY in 2011, the rest of the people can tolerate L4S winning too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen 1,143 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I find it fascinating how some reasonable people try to tone you and your unrealistic expectations down, by making actual points, and you still manage to drag them.  If you wanna keep your hopes up, good for you. But donât spread negativity when your expectations donât become reality. Or when somebody simply disagrees with you. I'm so used to giving, and now I get to receive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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