Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Wet Fire said: That's because Jada didn't get to say anything. And she chose not tonsay anything. Will Smith and Chris Rock literally erased her existenceĀ and perspective from the whole thing. Jada didn't ask Will to smack Chris. She didn't ask any man to "defend her honour". Anyway, both Chris and Will are wrong. So, picking any side is a mistake in my my opinion. They are both wrong. Only one of them is getting condemned. Thatās my problem.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,519 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just now, Frank Potion said: They are both wrong. Only one of them is getting condemned. Thatās my problem.Ā On TV, maybe yes. But onĀ social media I have seen a massive amount of support for Will and criticism against Chris. But you're right to an extent. American talk shows and news channels are vilifying only Will. People aren't talking enough about how shitty and quite frankly dumb the joke was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Frank Potion said: Ā My point is, the entire video is white people clutching their pearls at the āangry black manā White people are allowed to have an opinion... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, androiduser said: White people are allowed to have an opinion... Of course u do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,580 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Frank Potion said: Notice how the only black woman they interviewed in that piece, Tiffany Haddish, has a different perspective of what that joke meant. Interesting.Ā What did she say? I only saw her saying it was the most beautiful thing she'd ever seen... I'd like to hear more about the perspective she has on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Healed My Heart said: What did she say? I only saw her saying it was the most beautiful thing she'd ever seen... I'd like to hear more about the perspective she has on it. She explains at the end of this video (timestamped) Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,580 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just now, Frank Potion said: She explains at the end of this video (timestamped) Ā Thank you, I only watched the first part! Should have finished it through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I kinda hate how everyone is talking about will or poor chris but no one is talking about how Jada felt about theĀ insensitive joke, very disrespectful after Chris doing the Good Hair docu.Ā what Will did was wrong but its done and the peopleĀ involved decided to move on and we all should do the same.Ā people are so overreacting about this because it was live but most remains silent over the me too movement and other things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azul 2,099 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joaco95 said: what Will did was wrong but its done and the peopleĀ involved decided to move on and we all should do the same.Ā Actions have consequences. I think it damages society to see a notorious celebĀ acting like that on live TV. We definitely should address it and we should make it clear, especially for young people, that violence is never a choice to cope with stressful situations. The fact that the audience legitimated what happened really shows which road our society is taking. I think Jim is right, our society is more tolerant of violence now than it used to be. We choose to be aggressive on social media, in traffic, at the supermarket, and now it is okay for the cultural elite to be violent in front of millions of people. I think it is a serious issue.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APPLAUSE4YOU 411 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Frank Potion said: Thatās well established. I have never defended that. But what Chris Rock did was disgusting and no one is condemning him for it and going so far as to blame Jada for the whole thing. Itās sick. Disgusting??? A GI Jane joke is disgusting from a stand up comedian? Get me the hellĀ outttttt of 2022 culture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, APPLAUSE4YOU said: Disgusting??? A GI Jane joke is disgusting from a stand up comedian? Get me the hellĀ outttttt of 2022 culture. Mocking a womanās hair loss is disgusting, yes.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, DanielM said: Actions have consequences. I think it damages society to see a notorious celebĀ acting like that on live TV. We definitely should address it and we should make it clear, especially for young people, that violence is never a choice to cope with stressful situations. The fact that the audience legitimated what happened really shows which road our society is taking. I think Jim is right, our society is more tolerant of violence now than it used to be. We choose to be aggressive on social media, in traffic, at the supermarket, and now it is okay for the cultural elite to be violent in front of millions of people. I think it is a serious issue.Ā Who is saying what Will did is ok?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concertaholic 5,890 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Frank Potion said: Notice how the only black woman they interviewed in that piece, Tiffany Haddish, has a different perspective of what that joke meant. Interesting.Ā Quite frankly when I heard Tiffanyās explanation it made me mad. I have no clue why sheās thinks Chrisā joke was insinuating that Jada was a āhomosexualā, and so what if he was (which he wasnāt). Tiffany is literally implyingĀ that being a āhomosexualāĀ is a bad thing or something to be embarrassed. HerĀ usage of theĀ term homosexualĀ irks me as well because itās antiquated and speaks to someone who is either misinformed or uncomfortable with the gay community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Concertaholic said: Quite frankly when I heard Tiffanyās explanation it made me mad. I have no clue why sheās thinks Chrisā joke was insinuating that Jada was a āhomosexualā, and so what if he was (which he wasnāt). Tiffany is literally implyingĀ that being a āhomosexualāĀ is a bad thing or something to be embarrassed. HerĀ usage of theĀ term homosexualĀ irks me as well because itās antiquated and speaks to someone who is either misinformed or uncomfortable with the gay community. It flew over your head. Her point is that it was a demeaning joke. It does not reflect her views.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisboyisamonster 864 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I think Will Smith has clear mental health issues in all honesty. Any put together person would at most go up on stage and pull a Kanye if something bothered you that much - you must be in a really bad place to hit someone (and not in response to a physical attack on yourself) and more so in a professional setting in during a live telecast. And to go to an after party shamelessly like that, it's just not right (doesn't matter you won the Oscar). Chris Rock isn't getting enough credit for keeping it together after the incident. And to those who are saying his joke was sick, I really don't think he knew of her medical condition. And even if he did, agree it's a terrible joke and in poor taste but he did not deserve a slap. A telling off on stage by Will Smith would have been far more effective in making him learn a lesson. A slap in public is not proportionate as a response to a comedian making an inappropriate joke. I am also shocked that more people in Hollywood aren't coming forward to support Chris Rock and speak against Will Smith. I also can't believe people were high fiving and dancing with him after, absolutely disgusting. Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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