Will Smith issues Public Apology to Chris Rock!

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I can't at there being any level of real outrage about this

A smartass joking about a woman's health condition got jacked by her husband. It's literally nothing.

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5 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I can't at there being any level of real outrage about this

A smartass joking about a woman's health condition got jacked by her husband. It's literally nothing.

Florida, ladies and gentlemen  

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This whole situation has been so interesting seeing peoples responses and what justifies violence, and what quantifies violence too.

I think Will has done the right thing for apologising. I think he was way out of line for doing it and it was shocking to see, I really thought it was a stunt. As for justifying it to defend Jada’s honour (if you will) I think that is dangerous territory. At an Oscar’s show it’s a slap round the face, but in the real world down the local bar an argument like that could result in someone dying. That’s why violence should never be the answer and it’s risky and slightly strange to see it being justified or downplayed in this scenario. 

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Just now, Bonkers said:

Florida, ladies and gentlemen  

You might actually be right

This sh*t happens all the time but usually the two who get into a fight end up buying each other drinks.

Like, idk if y'all are too sheltered or if I just wasn't sheltered enough but again, it's a slap. How about a little perspective here

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38 minutes ago, Heygirl22 said:

Violence is never ok 😢 I was shocked to see him hit him and then accept and award shortly after receiving applause it felt icky like as if people were happy about it. 

What was the most awkward to me was seeing him partying at the Vanity Fair after party like nothing happened.

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4 minutes ago, PartySick said:

You might actually be right

This sh*t happens all the time but usually the two who get into a fight end up buying each other drinks.

Like, idk if y'all are too sheltered or if I just wasn't sheltered enough but again, it's a slap. How about a little perspective here

Did you not see the angry screaming from the audience. And sorry, we don't use physical violence for those kinds of situations.  If that kind of toxic  masculinity is normal to you, then I don't know what to tell you.  

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1 minute ago, Bonkers said:

Did you not see the angry screaming from the audience. And sorry, we don't use physical violence for those kinds of situations.  If that kind of toxic  masculinity is normal to you, then I don't know what to tell you.  

Yes...after Chris made fun of his wife's health condition? The anger is justified. The violence, of course, is not and never is but it's certainly not shocking enough to warrant global media attention and outrage 

The way people are up in arms you'd think he went up there and snapped his neck or something.

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15 minutes ago, PartySick said:

You might actually be right

This sh*t happens all the time but usually the two who get into a fight end up buying each other drinks.

Like, idk if y'all are too sheltered or if I just wasn't sheltered enough but again, it's a slap. How about a little perspective here

And I'll just address the "health condition" talking point again.  It's something people are using to elevate the idea the joke was beyond the pale because generally HEALTH CONDITION is seen as something very serious.  Why?  Because health conditions we hear about are usually things like diabetes, or lupus, high blood pressure.  Things that if they don't put your life in peril, come with serious consequences such as needing a injections, medications, machines, regular hospital visits, pain, discomfort, disability.

While I recognize the loss of hair is a substantial and meaningful loss - and emotionally painful - the reality is that this "health condition" almost always only requires that the person it's happening to (and it happens to a LOT of people - comes to terms to with the new reality that their hair is not what they want it to be.  In my mind, Jada was showing she was confident and had come to terms with it.  Shitty joke, sure.  But I don't think Chris Rock or the writers thought about it too deep or considered people would elevate it to "health condition".  Her health is just fine.

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20 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I can't at there being any level of real outrage about this

A smartass joking about a woman's health condition got jacked by her husband. It's literally nothing.

THANK YOU SO MUCH 

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1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Yes...after Chris made fun of his wife's health condition? The anger is justified. The violence, of course, is not and never is but it's certainly not shocking enough to warrant global media attention and outrage 

The way people are up in arms you'd think he went up there and snapped his neck or something.

you are not entitled to walk on a stage and do anything. I don't care if you're Kanye, I don't care if you're will smith - that is a no go area for audience members.   I find it surprising you would normalize that kind of behaviour.

And yes, get slapped across your face and then shouted down and threatened from the audience IS humiliating, and not something a comedian should have to tolerate.

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Necessary publicist/PR firm release defending trash; that’s all. Smith’s behaviour both physical and verbal is inexcusable. I can imagine Sidney Poitier spinning in his grave.

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4 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

And I'll just address the "health condition" talking point again.  It's something people are using to elevate the idea the joke was beyond the pale because generally HEALTH CONDITION is seen as something very serious.  Why?  Because health conditions we hear about are usually things like diabetes, or lupus, high blood pressure.  Things that if they don't put your life in peril, come with serious consequences such as needing a injections, medications, machines, regular hospital visits, pain, discomfort, disability.

While I recognize the loss of hair is a substantial and meaningful loss - and emotionally painful - the reality is that this "health condition" almost always only requires that the person it's happening to (and it happens to a LOT of people - comes to terms to with the new reality that their hair is not what they want it to be.  In my mind, Jada was showing she was confident and had come to terms with it.  Shitty joke, sure.  But I don't think Chris Rock or the writers thought about it too deep or considered people would elevate it to "health condition"

Whether or not the main symptom is hair loss, Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder. I’m sure that is very scary to the people who actually have it. You don’t get to justify what health conditions are severe enough for the person who has to deal with it every day. “Invisible” health conditions are still health conditions. 

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27 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I can't at there being any level of real outrage about this

A smartass joking about a woman's health condition got jacked by her husband. It's literally nothing.

 

We don't know if Chris was joking about her health condition, or if he just made a joke about what he thought was Jada's chosen hair style, but regardless of the intention of his joke, hitting someone is not an appropriate response.

Will has recognized that, and apologized. Which is great. 

But the language you have chosen to use in threads about this issue, "a husband jacked someone because of something he said about his wife," is troubling in that it promotes toxic masculinity. Your comment also sends signals to victims of assault and physical abuse that violence against them can be justified if they said something that upset their abuser. 

You can call it a slap, or getting "jacked," but do not put your hands on other people. It's that simple. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ThomastheMonster said:

Whether or not the main symptom is hair loss, Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder. I’m sure that is very scary to the people who actually have it. You don’t get to justify what health conditions are severe enough for the person who has to deal with it every day. “Invisible” health conditions are still health conditions. 

an autoimmune disorder that does one thing: your body attacks hair follicles.  Just hair.  It's not scary. 

Blowing it into a big scary term like that is just a way to try to validate and justify WIll's violence, which I can't see is rational. 

 

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1 minute ago, Bonkers said:

an autoimmune disorder that does one thing: your body attacks hair follicles.  Just hair.  It's not scary. 

Blowing it into a big scary term like that is just a way to try to validate and justify WIll's violence, which I can't see is rational. 

 

Or maybe Will lives with Jaida and knows something we don’t about how she feels about her condition. Maybe she’s super insecure and wanted to try to be brave and show it off, and then that happened. You saying I’m “blowing it up to a scary and big term” is completing invalidating the way she could posssibly feel.