Future Lovers 6,545 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Fresco said: Self-inflicted death, aka suicide. That not at all true. In order for something to be suicide, the self inflicted death must have been intentional. Self inflicted accidental death is not a suicide and as such medical examiner and coroner will not call it suicide and it is not legally declared a suicide either. Any death that is accidental, no matter if the person who died inadvertently set in motion the events of their death or not, is ruled to be an accidental death. By your logic, somebody who dies in a car accident as a result of falling asleep at the wheel, something they did not intend to do, committed suicide because they caused their own death inadvertently. There have been no fewer than two different inquests into Amy Winehouse's death by two different physicians and both of them came to the same conclusion: she died of accidental alcohol poisoning. There are a multitude of signs left behind on and in a corpse that would point in the direction of suicide if one took place, and no signs were found on or within Amy Winehouse. She was as an alcoholic and tried several times to get help so this exact thing didn't happen. She was not drinking to kill herself that night, she was simply drinking as she always did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,575 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I don't think the comedy in HOG was a bad thing in and of itself. I think the problem was that the comedy was poorly written and directed. I think if the film were more deliberately campy and melodramatic, it probably would've been received better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,575 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Pennywise said: Also, if Gaga thinks method acting is simply going through whatever psychological trauma the person in the role went through, she has more to learn about it. In fact, her whole "method acting" shtick is frankly off putting at best. "Schtick" ie studying method acting at the Lee Strasberg Institute? Lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Pennywise said: Also, if Gaga thinks method acting is simply going through whatever psychological trauma the person in the role went through, she has more to learn about it. In fact, her whole "method acting" shtick is frankly off putting at best. Method is an amazing tool for actors, but it's just one tool. You can't build a house with just a hammer. There is alot more to acting. I feel like she is a really good actress but I think she will get better with time. The problem is that she is trying so hard to prove that she is a good actress that her interviews get too clinical about her process and that process becomes a "schtick." "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 2:39 AM, Helxig said: Tbh I'd love to see her have just a very small role in a big movie where she plays a fun/funny character. I miss Gaga being fun sometimes. She's gotten so serious the past few years I agree! Gaga said Bobby suggested a ROM-COM after HoG wrapped. She's not opposed to doing a superhero movie either. I think she should do BOTH! 😍 Acting is a JOB! And since she's so new she should do comedy, drama, action, whatever. Why so serious?? As Gaga pointed out herself, once she has a kid she wouldn't be able to stay in character for months anyway... Speaking of kids, I doubt she'll wait much longer. Katy had a baby in 2020. Rihanna is pregnant. Adele wants to have a baby next year... The biological clock is a fact of life! (i.e., It might take longer to get pregnant, and the risk of pregnancy loss, complications, and chromosome abnormalities is higher for women over 35.) she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 1:28 AM, Bradley said: Are there producers who are making an Amy Winehouse biopic? There should be some news on that already if it was happening. LOL, no. Amy was 27 when she DIED. Gaga is 35! They'll cast an actress in her 20s. It's like BEN PLATT (who was 27 at the time) playing a teenager in the film version of Dear Evan Hansen. He was widely mocked and nominated for a Razzie. 🙄 It'd be different if he played Evan from 17 to 47, but that's not the case... It's a TEEN musical about a 17-year-old! Why not cast a younger actor?? she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,635 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I dont mind comedic undertones, however they sadly never hit with the critics as much as 'serious' movies. I just hope the next filming process isn't something as intense for her. If that demands a funny role or a movie thats not as serious, then thats fine with me. ⟡ ⋆ ˚｡⋆🦢⋆ ˚｡⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstrosity 3,927 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 21 hours ago, Pennywise said: Also, if Gaga thinks method acting is simply going through whatever psychological trauma the person in the role went through, she has more to learn about it. In fact, her whole "method acting" shtick is frankly off putting at best. She said a million times that she studied animals to get into character so one thing is certain and it is that she doesn’t think that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,867 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Sunny21 said: I agree! Gaga said Bobby suggested a ROM-COM after HoG wrapped. She's not opposed to doing a superhero movie either. I think she should do BOTH! 😍 Acting is a JOB! And since she's so new she should do comedy, drama, action, whatever. Why so serious?? As Gaga pointed out herself, once she has a kid she wouldn't be able to stay in character for months anyway... Speaking of kids, I doubt she'll wait much longer. Katy had a baby in 2020. Rihanna is pregnant. Adele wants to have a baby next year... The biological clock is a fact of life! (i.e., It might take longer to get pregnant, and the risk of pregnancy loss, complications, and chromosome abnormalities is higher for women over 35.) See that's what I've been shouting on here! I'm trying to prepare the fanbase for the fact she is going to have a baby in the next year or two. She's been going on about wanting a whole gang of children since 10 years ago. There's no way she's going to wait until close to 40 to make a start I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 19 hours ago, No Way Home said: No, we don’t know. It isn’t unheard of for actors and actresses to agree to sign on before seeing a script but I don’t know that this is one of those occasions. Yes, we do know. Of course they sent her the script! (Source: NY Times.) Why would (post-ASIB) Gaga say yes without seeing a script?? People sent her scripts because ASIB was a BOX OFFICE HIT! They wouldn't have to worry about financing if she said yes. 🙂 That's what happened with Gucci. Gaga was cast, MGM was interested, $75 Million budget. Once they cast big names like Jared and Al, they had to give them something to do. I wouldn't be surprised if that's one reason they dropped the ball, not focusing on Pat as much as they should after the first hour. Who knows. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I see her in dramatic movies more. Her face structure and behavior is better suited for it in my opinion. I could see her in a Disney movie like Maleficient, Cruella type of villains, but I also could picture her in a DC Movie as a villain again. Things involving Fashion works well with her as well. She should try somethng different than a musical though or else she can be typecast. Next time though Im hoping for a good movie, a good script Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 1:51 AM, No Way Home said: I have wondered since seeing the film just what exactly pulled her into this, and I can only really say and it feel believable that Ridley must have sold it well or she just saw it as an opportunity to do something out there because I think she's smart enough to have been able to see what a mess the screenplay was/is. Because it's a biopic. Gaga was DEPRESSED at the time. Acting is an ESCAPE for her, and playing a REAL person, "BECOMING" a real-life murderer who's still alive sounded like the perfect escape from her life! “I was in a really complicated place in my life when this script came to me,” Gaga said of her first starring role since “A Star Is Born” (2018). She was struggling with DEPRESSION... When “House of Gucci” offered her someone else to become, she jumped at the chance. (Source: NY Times) Gaga said she talked to Ridley, and he said Patrizia's in love, i.e., she's not just a gold digger. She found a way into the character. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Pennywise said: Also, if Gaga thinks method acting is simply going through whatever psychological trauma the person in the role went through, she has more to learn about it. I disagree. Method Acting is exactly what Gaga said it is... BECOMING the character. She's quoting Lee Strasberg. 🙂 Remember: Lady Gaga did NOT invent Method Acting. She studied Method Acting at the Lee Strasberg Theatre & Film Institute for 10 years. Strasberg's Method requires actors to use a technique called "substitution" to temporarily BECOME the characters they are portraying. Gaga's acting teacher, who was on set, was herself taught by Lee Strasberg. Did you know Al Pacino studied Method Acting under Lee Strasberg?? No, Strasberg didn't invent Method Acting either. (It's Stanislavski... 19th century.) Daniel Day-Lewis, a method actor, won 3 Oscars for Best Actor. In My Left Foot, a biopic, he played an Irish writer with cerebral palsy who was able to write with the toes of his left foot. He stayed in character for MONTHS. Crew members had to carry him around on set and spoon-feed him! Why? He wanted to GO THROUGH what his character WENT THROUGH, the physical and PSYCHOLOGICAL aspects, how embarrassing it was to have to be carried around and spoon-fed... Just because someone studied Method Acting doesn't mean they're Daniel Day-Lewis, obviously. You don't have to like Gaga's acting, but Method Acting is nothing new! 🙂 she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,770 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Eh I think there was just miscommunication on what House of Gucci was to be. Everyone played it seriously (even, bizarrely, Jared Leto), but the film has a LOT of camp and ridiculousness to it from the narration voiceover and accents to glamour, lines, etc. I think the actors were led astray lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,770 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 10 hours ago, deactivated001 said: "Schtick" ie studying method acting at the Lee Strasberg Institute? Lmao And talking about it as nauseum. There’s calamity the world over and the last thing I think the vast majority of people want to hear is a mega privileged woman talk about how she dove into a character for months to make a movie. It just reads as massively out of touch from an optics standpoint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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