berlinforme 5,385 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pennywise said: this is giving me Okay you didn't have to go that far with the comparison, yikes. That was a totally nuanced post. There's crazy SJW-twitter and there's also crazy right wing extremist twitter (aka every conservative US news outlet nowadays). Both constantly react to each other and one couldn't possibly say which one triggered which first, in my opinion. It's just how attention works in this age and they can both be annoying at the same time. Right wing extremists literally wanting to erase people doesn't give 'progressive' people a free pass for bullshit. Yet, one has to bear in mind that one side is violent while the other's just rather annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Just now, berlinforme said: Okay you didn't have to go that far with the comparison, yikes. I desperately wanted an occasion to post that image So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlinforme 5,385 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Just now, Pennywise said: I desperately wanted an occasion to post that image Okay, that was definitely the closest to that we got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pennywise said: this is giving me I can only explain to you, I cant understand for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Right-wing media is notorious for fabricating anything to further whatever is on the agenda that day. They feed off of negative energy, lies and fallacies and anyone who participates in their shenanigans aids them whether intentionally or unintentionally. With that being said - I feel for the trans community because in regards to our LGBTQ+ community they happen to have one of the most divided communities. Even though Fox News is full of sh!t, it is not unbelievable that Adele would be labelled a terf by some for her statement. Whether it's allies or some trans individuals, they always speak 'in the name of everyone in the trans community' while touting their opinions. There are a lot of problematic individuals that make their rounds on social media, giving trans people and the community a bad name, because they are trans. People just tip-toe around it because they don't want to be labelled bigots, but with some of the things I'm seeing online... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, berlinforme said: Okay you didn't have to go that far with the comparison, yikes. That was a totally nuanced post. There's crazy SJW-twitter and there's also crazy right wing extremist twitter (aka every conservative US news outlet nowadays). Both constantly react to each other and one couldn't possibly say which one triggered which first, in my opinion. It's just how attention works in this age and they can both be annoying at the same time. Right wing extremists literally wanting to erase people doesn't give 'progressive' people a free pass for bullshit. Yet, one has to bear in mind that one side is violent while the other's just rather annoying. This is the great fallacy amongst the left (which I am.. obviously). Extreme progressives are harmful in non violent ways. The right wingers are straight up batshìt crazy gun slinging fist clenchers. The extreme sjw's will tear your entire life apart. You'll lose your job, your family, can't pay debts, provably end up in court or jail due to the chain reaction.. I'd rather get some broken bones tbh. Physical harm is getting off lightly. And the worst bit is in a good number of cases it's just some ragey sjw twisting reality. Not in all cases. In alot of cases the tearing down of a conservatives entire life is fruitful and juicy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,725 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Are we seriously on sjw hate train STILL? Honestly, that's on me, I had the option to not click on GGD tab, and yet I did It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said: Are we seriously on sjw hate train STILL? Honestly, that's on me, I had the option to not click on GGD tab, and yet I did Theyre Karens in a different wig. Virtue signals & unjustified outrage. An sjw is detestable. They are not the same as an activist and cause more harm and pushback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregano 103 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I disagree with her on several parts but I do see where she is coming from. Context is everything but there are sides the video poster overlooked as well.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, KORG said: This is the great fallacy amongst the left (which I am.. obviously). Extreme progressives are harmful in non violent ways. The right wingers are straight up batshìt crazy gun slinging fist clenchers. The extreme sjw's will tear your entire life apart. You'll lose your job, your family, can't pay debts, provably end up in court or jail due to the chain reaction.. I'd rather get some broken bones tbh. Physical harm is getting off lightly. And the worst bit is in a good number of cases it's just some ragey sjw twisting reality. Not in all cases. In alot of cases the tearing down of a conservatives entire life is fruitful and juicy. Not you saying you'd rather get physically assaulted to the degree of having to be hospitalized than getting "cancelled" online by leftists. Ok come on, you know that this is kind of an insane take on the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Pennywise said: Nope. People like Joe Rogan are why we have people like Joe Rogan. It is not the fault of the LGBTQIA+ community in any shape or form that right wing lunatics exist. One stupid tweet doesn't take the blame for that. absolutely, it's disgusting how people justify right wingers, the people who react this way is not because they want to be offended, it's literally people who's been hurt over the years, being invalidated as individuals, used to be mocked and stripped out of their identity on a daily bases, it's normal that they get defensive and doubt when people make this type of comments, right wingers just react this way because they can and to seize every opportunity to ridicule trans and non-binary people Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea B 16,761 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Oregano said: I disagree with her on several parts but I do see where she is coming from. Context is everything but there are sides the video poster overlooked as well.. I see where she's coming from, but I still think that adele's comment wasn't meant to be transphobic or enbyphobic. She's just overreacting and sounds like she's envies her a lot. that still doesn't give terfs the right to be transphobic. anyway, TERFs and conservatives are the same kind of people so it doesn't surprise they're using this weak story agaisn't the trans community Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Supersonic said: Not you saying you'd rather get physically assaulted to the degree of having to be hospitalized than getting "cancelled" online by leftists. Ok come on, you know that this is kind of an insane take on the situation. Do physical injury is, most times, temporary. Have a think about what it's like to have your entire life ripped out and taken apart because some hyper sensitive idiot overreacts online. Legit comments justify legit reactions. Adele's speech was not something that warranted this. Youre all about kindness and equality until it comes to finding a glimmer of opportunity to ruthlessly tear someone down. Do you think shattering someone's life is good? Potentially leading them to suicide is funny? Ruining the lives of people who work for them too? Ruining the lives of their families? Tunnel vision is all good if its only you in the tunnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Fanta said: Right-wing media is notorious for fabricating anything to further whatever is on the agenda that day. They feed off of negative energy, lies and fallacies and anyone who participates in their shenanigans aids them whether intentionally or unintentionally. With that being said - I feel for the trans community because in regards to our LGBTQ+ community they happen to have one of the most divided communities. Even though Fox News is full of sh!t, it is not unbelievable that Adele would be labelled a terf by some for her statement. Whether it's allies or some trans individuals, they always speak 'in the name of everyone in the trans community' while touting their opinions. There are a lot of problematic individuals that make their rounds on social media, giving trans people and the community a bad name, because they are trans. People just tip-toe around it because they don't want to be labelled bigots, but with some of the things I'm seeing online... Thank you for making this comment, your posts are always insightful and you’re always standing up for people of color and everyone in the LGBT community. It’s a pleasure to have you on this site! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 this is so wrong. The clear purpose of this is to aim hate not only at a very vulnerable minority but - which I believe is more relevant from the right wing media's perspective - misunderstanding for the LGBTQ+ community as a whole by instrumentalizing us as a radical politically manipulative agenda. They are politicizing the LGBTQ+ into an fabricated enemy for their targeted audience for proof of their own beliefs... I feel like that is a trend that's been getting more and more intense as of lately and it needs to stop. LGBTQ+ people are at one hand politically relevant because they need support but stop instrumentalizing us for political interests. There needs to be a barrier where I get to choose if I want to be political or not, if I want to take part in a political discourse or not. And stirring hate speech towards our community makes it difficult to stay silent. Raising our voice already is a political act by that means. We take part in that discussion only to be transformed into wrong accusations and fake news by the right wing media. And this is very dangerous in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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