MelbHawker 6,583 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Aren’t there thousands who vote for the Oscars though? I think it’s silly how people assume this & that about things that honestly aren’t transparent at all re: why she was snubbed etc.. all this is merely speculation. It was a snub, but it is what it is. I doubt the snub is because of her interviews.. that’s absurd. Kristen literally said she couldn’t give a sh*t about her Oscar buzz publicly.. why on earth would they nominate her if the campaign trail of actresses is why they’re nominated etc. I think this fanbase needs to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,127 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I honestly think it all came down to industry support - Gaga isn't a veteran with 20+ years of expeirence, she's got a total of two lead films under her belt, - she's new. Not even Haim, who was highly praised in a Best Picture film, got in. She's not going to have veteran actors going to bat for her like the others. It was a very competitive year. The actors branch of APMAs are the ones who voted for the acting nominations - not the directors branch or anyone else, which is why I find it hard to believe her random eccentric sounding soundbites did anything truly detrimental to her campaign. Actors have went to bat for her on twitter to explain that " the cat" "the panther" etc., acutally are typical actor exercises. She got into SAG and the incredibly snooty & juried BAFTA - if her interviews were such a cringe embarassement to everyone, she wouldn't have managed that, like at all. Her superstar name, quick success, and uneven movie if anything, was more a detrimental to her campaign compared to the passion votes that other prestige actresses were getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebi 13,928 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Little monsters are like the only fandom to go against their idol from time to time. If she had kept silent you would be blaming her for it and saying that is the reason she wasn't nominated. There's no way to please you. I'm proud of everything she does, I've learn a lot of acting method through her honest stories, and I know I'm not the only one who enjoys listening to her, that's why she is like no other celebrity. We will never really know the actual reason you guys are speculating AND letting her down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 All the reasons are purely speculations. The very obvious reason that we can be sure about is that she's not in top 5. And the reason for that could vary. But the one explanation that makes most sense is not how her interviews are cringy, but she just simply didn't have enough no.1 votes. You'll have to break down the category and look at her competitors. Cruz is surely the surprise here. Sony was pushing her hard for the past month despite she being snubbed by everywhere. Also Cruz had Volpi+LAFCA+NSFC buzz to push her name out there. Voters that like her performance will surely put her at no.1 because they want to get her in. Then you have Stewart who missed SAG. I suspect her performance had some passion but the film is not well liked. Thus there will be a certain number of voters put her at their no.1 to save her. As for Nicole and Jessica, I highly suspect they got a lot no.1/no.2 votes from the elderly white voters in the acting chapter. They are familiar with Lucille Ball and Tammy Faye, and the were usually into these kinds of films. That leaves Gaga. I'm sure she's not far away from the top 5, but she just doesn't have enough people put her at the top 3 to get in. Many voters may find her secure and wanted to save performances that are at risk (Cruz, Stewart, Chastain). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 However I do think MGM is very responsible. They have 3 actresses that garner buzz this season and yet none made the cut. If HoG is too much divisive of a film, then how do you explain Alana Haim? If Patrizia is not a beloved figure to play, then how do you explain JHud? All three actors did very well at precursors. Gaga made everywhere, Alana hit 3/4, JHud made SAG and AACTA. But the campaign tactic is very different for the AMPAS than the precursors. Just see how Sony pushed a win for Anthony Hopkins while Chadwick won 3/4 precursors. Like I said before, there is a reason why MGM hasn't had a best actress winner in 34 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun li 2,673 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 So the Oscars are an award for how you promote a movie? The marketing campaign awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 2,774 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Dennis said: It's just sad to see. I hope that her team realizes this and works on better communication strategy next time. No point in trying to win an Oscar, if you don't have a campaign strategy. Either have one, or just sit out and let the performance speak for itself. At the same time, I never want Gaga to tone down her odd ball over-zealous theater kid energy, it’s one of the reasons I love her. If that’s what an Oscar takes, then **** the Oscar. Dampening your personality to make yourself more palatable for other people goes completely against what Gaga stands for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 6,714 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Male actors including Daniel Day Lewis and Benedict Cumberbatch have been going on about method acting all along. If anything, Gaga's campaign shows how sexist the media is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dove 521 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I do think she went a little bit too far with always explaining herself with the method acting thing. Take the HAIM girl for example, she did AMAZING, and in interviews (the one with jimmy falloon for example) she was just having fun and enjoying herself, didnt have to explain herself too much on acting techniques and stuff, she was just like mm yeaa it was fun and challenging no biggie. I wish gaga was more like that when it comes to doing press for movies, but I cant blame her tho we all know shes such a nerd!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawrimamonster 1,115 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I think Gaga can come across as sort of pompous & attention-seeking to people who aren’t stans. Of course I LOVE Gaga but I think it would help her to show slightly more humility. That could have helped her Oscar campaign I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,314 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Talking about method acting doesn’t get you an Oscar snub. You guys are REACHING. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,499 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, chun li said: So the Oscars are an award for how you promote a movie? The marketing campaign awards Apparently. How well an actress played the part takes a back seat to other factors. Gaga isn't among those known for great performances over the years so she has to take a back seat to those who are well known in the industry. And her promotion wasn't how voters would have preferred. They call the award "best actress" but it's not based on who was the best actress. Voters are influenced by many things other than the acting. The snub was so major it made the national news. On the evening of the day the list of nominations were announced CBS Evening News used the word "snub" twice in reference to Gaga not being nominated. It was a busy news day with major happenings around the world to report, yet they made time in the half hour show to say Gaga was snubbed. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfio 97 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Wet Fire said: Male actors including Daniel Day Lewis and Benedict Cumberbatch have been going on about method acting all along. If anything, Gaga's campaign shows how sexist the media is The thing about this is they have been actors their whole lives. We know Gaga is an actress before becoming Lady Gaga but that is not what the Oscar voters know. To them, Lady Gaga is the new Cher, a popstar who does acting. A lot of them would even actually prefer if Gaga drops "Lady Gaga" and go by Stefani Germanotta when she's acting. This is something Gaga refused for the right reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster 2,458 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 She honestly just takes everything SO seriously that it becomes a drag. It’s fine if she does but I just think she needs to stop going so in depth into her process, it feels like she’s always trying to prove something with her words when her acting is more than enough. Shes a master of almost everything except subtlety. She’s very emotion centric and a lot of people don’t like that. This is not a shade post, I think she will learn with time that this kind of promotion is different and you have to kinda fit in with the crowd rather than stand out for an Oscars nom. We have to remember she’s really new to this and pitfalls are ok! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Hebi said: Little monsters are like the only fandom to go against their idol from time to time. If she had kept silent you would be blaming her for it and saying that is the reason she wasn't nominated. There's no way to please you. I'm proud of everything she does, I've learn a lot of acting method through her honest stories, and I know I'm not the only one who enjoys listening to her, that's why she is like no other celebrity. We will never really know the actual reason you guys are speculating AND letting her down. THIS!!! i also learned a lot with the things she said and all her acting process, she made me research Lee Strasberg and Stanislavski, it was so interesting learning what this techniques of acting and sense memory are about Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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