Ziggy 10,723 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Helxig said: What people get confused about is that not every rich person is an evil capitalist overlord. Gaga has amassed a huge amount of money, but she has always been known to be kind and give back and look after her staff very well. She understands her privilege (she speaks about it often) and tries to use her wealth to give back to people. The capitalists who use and abuse the working class to fill their pockets with no regard for their humanity are the real swine here. We should be directing our anger towards them. Also pretty much anyone with a billion dollars + has sourced that kind of wealth unethically. I get what they're saying, and to a degree they are right, but their anger is pointed in the wrong direction There isn’t ethical capitalism lmao Gaga doesn’t have a simple in and out cash flow. Her money gets invested like so many other celebs and investments and the stock market? Those exploit working class folk without the means or education to invest well. There are MANY ways in which wealthy people contribute to exploitation and societal ills indirectly. For instance, Gaga doesn’t handle her money. She pays someone else to. Thus she herself likely isn’t fully aware of what it’s doing on a regular day to day basis. If Gaga has a $300 mil-ish net worth, she did not purely get that ethically lmao there’s no way. You can get comfy with that or hop ship but that’s the t. You don’t amass hundreds of millions of dollars ethically. Multi millionaires are seldom going to be paragons of virtue (which they aren’t obligated to be, to be clear). They might do good things like donate, sure, or stump for a cause, but they also exist as the ultra elite in society who, by nature of the system they’re in and where they are in it, exploit those beneath them. It’s the only way to sustain that level of wealth. Being where they are, they buy into that system, clearly. If you’re okay with that or not is your business but that’s the way these things are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 She's talking on a broader scale but morons on Twitter can't grasp that. /thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I agree with her statement, but considering how she's been operating recently she shouldn't be bringing up capitalism at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster 2,458 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, KORG said: Capitalism is how things are. To be successful, you do it. That's it. End of. Agree. Capitalism sucks but it’s what we have. It’s easy to criticize someone for making money but it’s the best platform gaga has to share her art. I’m sorry but no one is going to topple capitalism just like that. We need to be more realistic when talking about such big topics. It’s easy to say oh capitalism sucks and everyone who’s rich sucks. It’s what we have though and I don’t see it changing soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillynate 6,170 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 We have no choice but to participate into capitalism and as soon as someone starts critiquing it, they’re labeled either a hypocrite or envious, depending on how much money they have. There’s a much bigger problem at hand. We’re (the US at least) in late stage capitalism and it’s slowly deteriorating before our eyes (has been since ‘08) and everyone wants to act like everything’s fine. There are so many staff shortages across many industries because people are tired of their hard work being under-appreciated and under-paid while the people at the top rack in the billions. Add a pandemic to the mix and the stakes are higher. Risking death for pennies while the big ones can afford to hide. We need to change. It’s time to take out the trash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 hours ago, thisguyN said: Coming from an ex-communist country, capitalism isn’t the worse devil of all. No system is perfect and we should strive to make the systems better as citizens, but at least capitalism works, unlike communism or other suggested concepts. That being said, it sounds extremely hypocritical of her saying capitalism destroys women, while promoting her own make-up brand day and night. I guess what she meant to say is she is against the discrimination embedded into the society, one of the main pillars of which is capitalism, but if she is against capitalism as a system in whole, then she shouldn’t be promoting the system, benefitting from the system and being literally the face, representation of the system. I've always felt like Gaga was raking in money (very obviously in-your-face all of a sudden) to prepare for bigger plans she has that are more focused towards charity and the betterment of society/people as far as her reach can go. But I wonder if I'm just delusional or if she really has bigger plans in mind. She has always and consistently expressed how she wants to spread joy and make the world a kinder place, and I had those thoughts because I think she's becoming aware in this day and age music does not have the same impact on people. But I don't know, these are my random musings in hoping something better comes out of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 7,992 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, *** Like Pepsi said: That has nothing to do with the fact that she is a rich capitalist. People who are criticizing her didn't help raise 150 million because they aren't famous so if they go on Facebook and tell everyone to give money for Covid, no one aside from maybe 5 of their friends will donate $15. It's not like she personally gave $150 million of her own money LMAO. Helping to raise money by getting other people to give away $150 million is not philanthropy. LMAO. You're talking about this like it required some huge effort on her part or that she had to make some sort of sacrifice to raise that money.... ROFL. Why are you so pressed lmao. If you know Gaga you know how insanely giving she is. We are all capitalists under this system, you’re not immune to critique rich or poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 hours ago, *** Like Pepsi said: Of course money is meaningless to her, money is meaningless when you have hundreds of millions of dollars, you are one of the richest people in the world and you never have to worry about money or think about money in your life ever again. She put money into her shows and her fashion because she knew she could make the money back and turn a huge profit, that's literally what capitalism is, that's what every business person does, they invest and take risks so they can grow their business. That's literally what capitalism is. "She didn't own a home until she bought one in" LMAO so what? She didn't own a home because she didn't need one, she was on the road all the time, flying in her private jet, all of which cost of millions of dollars over the years, then she bought a multi million dollar mansion in a rich neighborhood like all rich people do. "in fact all the messages behind her songs and her art are very anti-capistalism, cynical and satiric about it" She never talks about capitalism in her songs and even if that was true, it doesn't mean anything when you're one of the richest people in the world as a result of capitalism, that would just be hypocritical and cringe. If Gaga was really against capitalism, she would share ownership of her comany like Haus Labs with all of the employees and everyone's salary would be equal to hers. How much money did she make off of her tours vs how much did her backup dancers make? LMAO. You can't keep denying reality, it's so cringe. Gaga is one of the richest people in the world, lives a luxurious lifestyle and it is all thanks to capitalism. She's a textbook capitalist rich person like anyone else and that's finem that's how the world should work. She should just stop with the woke commie bullshit just to pander to her fans cause it's all lies. That's the truth. Were talking about the same woman who raised 150 milion dollars for covid relief ya right she so evil no and she has to pay her workers somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, *** Like Pepsi said: That has nothing to do with the fact that she is a rich capitalist. People who are criticizing her didn't help raise 150 million because they aren't famous so if they go on Facebook and tell everyone to give money for Covid, no one aside from maybe 5 of their friends will donate $15. It's not like she personally gave $150 million of her own money LMAO. Helping to raise money by getting other people to give away $150 million is not philanthropy. LMAO. You're talking about this like it required some huge effort on her part or that she had to make some sort of sacrifice to raise that money.... ROFL. She asked big companies to donate money that requires some time and effort she always trying to do things to make the world a better place like for elan example during the joanne tour she and the born this way foundation helped clean up house that got hit by hurricane harvey thats just one of many examples so stop paiting gaga as an evil capatilalist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Ziggy said: Oh honey she got more than $150 mil lmao And your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,188 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 There is a huge difference between someone who earned every f*cking penny they have and worked themselves into the ground doing it, and a trust fund nightmare who was born a billionaire like Elon Musk. Gaga did upwards of 4 shows a night sometimes, playing in Ikea parking lots and opening for the New Kids on the Block (), and destroyed her hip in the process. She earned that money and can do whatever the f*ck she wants with it as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussy Like Pepsi 238 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Suuus said: She asked big companies to donate money that requires some time and effort she always trying to do things to make the world a better place like for elan example during the joanne tour she and the born this way foundation helped clean up house that got hit by hurricane harvey thats just one of many examples so stop paiting gaga as an evil capatilalist HAHAHHAA 🤡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Runway said: She’s very rich now but she had to be abused, humiliated and even had an abortion to get there. She’s not talking about herself anyway here What you said is just powerful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, *** Like Pepsi said: HAHAHHAA 🤡 Wow your so immature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 7,992 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, *** Like Pepsi said: Cause you're lying and are in denial and that's sad. Not everyone likes smelling bullshit. 🤡 LYING? How?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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