Biden admin sues to block student debt relief for disabled man

[Emvee 8,865]

2 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

I didn't say it was factually wrong I said the site was biased. Do you understand the difference? 

Haha, yeah keep backtracking.
 

Every single type of news outlet has a bias, but facts are facts, America.  

[Chlorine 47,976]

29 minutes ago, Eriq said:

Haha, yeah keep backtracking.

I said "I don't know enough about the legality of this to comment, but I'm sure it's more than 'Biden evil.'" I don't know why the Biden admin would do this and I couldn't find anything online about the laws.* Anyone should question the intention behind articles they read, and who is writing them. I believe that article to be factually accurate but that does not mean it did not leave out context.

29 minutes ago, Eriq said:

very single type of news outlet has a bias, but facts are facts, America.  

And some are more credible than others. The guy who founded this site was Bernie's speechwriter in the 2020 campaign. Might he have an axe to grind against Biden? 

 

*I don't know why the Biden admin would do this and I couldn't find anything online about the laws. Wanted to clarify this... I didn't find anything about legally why Biden admin would challenge it. So I would like to know that before I form my opinion.

[Pennywise 36,080]

Biden fans/centrists are perhaps THE most repugnant people of the US. Like, at least Republicans are openly evil. Y'all are still trying to hide behind tired excuses 

[Pennywise 36,080]

4 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

I said "I don't know enough about the legality of this to comment, but I'm sure it's more than 'Biden evil.'" I don't know why the Biden admin would do this and I couldn't find anything online about the laws. Anyone should question the intention behind articles they read, and who is writing them. I believe that article to be factually accurate but that does not mean it did not leave out context.

And some are more credible than others. The guy who founded this site was Bernie's speechwriter in the 2020 campaign. Might he have an axe to grind against Biden? 

So your argument is basically "well, what the article says is true but since a leftist wrote it I'll try to make it look as bad as possible"? 

[Chlorine 47,976]

13 minutes ago, Pennywise said:

So your argument is basically "well, what the article says is true but since a leftist wrote it I'll try to make it look as bad as possible"? 

No... my argument is that I don't trust heavily biased media outlets and like to read multiple sources to form my opinion. The only other article I found was another very biased site and a legal site. So I want to know more about the Biden admin decision before I say "Biden evil."

https://abovethelaw.com/2022/02/biden-administration-fights-to-keep-student-debt-an-inescapable-nightmare/ (They cite the Daily Poster as a source)

https://www.law360.com/articles/1459075/del-bankruptcy-ruling-sparks-rethink-on-student-loan-debt (This was extremely informative and I learned about the "Brunner" test. But it's open to interpretation and I want to know what reasons Biden admin has for challenging the ruling.)

[Pennywise 36,080]

13 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

So I want to know more about the Biden admin decision before I say "Biden evil.

I don't, I'm not American and it's more fun that way 

 

It's really like a reverse-American expedition in which the other countries are messing with American politics instead 

[Chlorine 47,976]

Just now, Pennywise said:

I don't, I'm not American and it's more fun that way 

I understand that. But I am American and it's a really scary time in this country. And I hate seeing that people don't dig deeper into the media/news they consume. It's on the left and the right. People are not media literate and it's extremely scary. 

Yes, each site has an agenda, all media does. That's why when I see 1 article that is from a heavily biased site, and virtually nothing else on the internet about it, I pause before jumping to a conclusion. And everyone else should too. 

[Pennywise 36,080]

2 minutes ago, Frank Potion said:

I understand that. But I am American and it's a really scary time in this country. And I hate seeing that people don't dig deeper into the media/news they consume. It's on the left and the right. People are not media literate and it's extremely scary. 

Yes, each site has an agenda, all media does. That's why when I see 1 article that is from a heavily biased site, and virtually nothing else on the internet about it, I pause before jumping to a conclusion. And everyone else should too. 

I know sis, all jokes aside the rapid ascent of right-wing politics all over the world is really concerning and I'm trying very hard to act like I'm not actually living in this world 

[StarstruckIllusion 53,681]

2 hours ago, Frank Potion said:

It's amazing how many people do not question a site nobody has heard of and its bias. Do just 5 seconds of research, and you will find that the Daily Poster is an extremely biased progressive left site.

Founded in 2020 by David Sirota, The Daily Poster is a progressive news and opinion website and daily newsletter. David Sirota is a journalist who is the current editor at Jacobin, an author, a columnist for the Guardian, and a former speechwriter for the Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign. The website primarily covers politics from a progressive left perspective.

In review, The Daily Poster publishes political news and opinions from a progressive left perspective. Many articles are written by David Sirota as well as other contributing writers. Articles and headlines often contain moderately loaded language such as this Lawmakers Unify To Give Corporate Donors A License To Kill You. This story is properly sourced to credible media outlets such as Politico and Reuters. All articles are original journalism.

Editorially, The Daily Poster aligns with the left. They frequently publish articles critical of conservatives such as this Trump Holds Coup Meeting With DeVos-Funded Lawmakers. Although they are supportive of the Democratic Party they are often critical of the corporate establishment Democrats such as this The Beltway Left Is Normalizing Corruption And Corporatism. When it comes to positions they promote climate change action, civil rights, single-payer healthcare, and worker’s rights. In general, the information presented on The Daily Poster is factual and editorially aligns with the progressive left (Democratic Socialism).

I don't know enough about the legality of this to comment, but I'm sure it's more than "Biden evil." And the fact that only 2 other sites pop up (one of them another very biased website) makes it hard to fact check this article. 

Radicalization efforts are not just coming from the right but from the left and people need to be a lot smarter about the news they consume. 

So? Unbiased news sources do not exist. Cant believe you have absolutely no concept that, nor of radical “centrism.” Worry about whether there’s actual law suits going up before you attempt to slander a site for something completely irrelevant. 

1 hour ago, Eriq said:

The appeal is public record. 
 

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16372300/ryan-k-wolfson-adversary-proceeding/

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.deb.178460/gov.uscourts.deb.178460.41.0.pdf

like lmao 

[Chlorine 47,976]

2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

So? Unbiased news sources do not exist. Cant believe you have absolutely no concept that, nor of radical “centrism.” Worry about whether there’s actual law suits going up before you attempt to slander a site for something completely irrelevant. 

like lmao 

Already had this discussion. Read the thread, it's only 3 pages. 

[Eido 3,685]

I do believe it was meant to happen 

There are other political parties in the USA, maybe it's time for you people to take a look at them

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,999]

5 hours ago, Eriq said:

Keywords are "as proposed by" as in "I won't actually take any responsibility in ensuring this happens, but in case SOMEHOW somebody finds a way to pass it, I'll say this is what majority of Americans want and I'm merely providing a signature from my special desk"

4 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

How useless and cruel. This admin is so unfocused and disjointed but honestly what else would you expect after trynna be a “big tent party” to the right, and not the left. 

They realized they only have to not do the worst Republicans have done. Watch, as the Republicans become more radical and nationalist, the Democratic establishment will move more right as well. 

3 hours ago, PartySick said:

It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Only one is anti-vax, anti-choice, anti-BLM, pro-seggregation, anti-voting rights, anti-LGBT, antisemitic, anti-education, and pro-whitewashing all while flying confederate and literal Nazi flags, brandishing guns and white supremacy colors, enlisting skinheads, and trying to overthrow American democracy with both overt and violent insurrection and subversive legislation to limit the power of Americans' votes all while fueled with a massive disinformation campaign that's winning over the weak and neglected minds in every red and purple state.

Or sh*t, just look at this picture and tell me they're the same

The Democratic party's establishment players are embarrassing as hell, ineffective, have their priorities out of order, and running on the outdated idea that unity can ever happen with the right (because it can't, idc how many GOP buddies Biden had 40 years ago) but you CAN NOT equate the Democrats to the Republicans in any way, shape, or form and I'm honestly tired of seeing people try

Give me embarrassing ass Biden over ANY Repugnant. Any day. And pray these boomers retire soon to make room for younger, more progressive powerhouses to come through and represent what most Americans actually support.

The last few sentences about address everything I was gonna say when I clicked to quote. But im not sure how to delete a quote from mobile so here's a mention

[PartySick 174,378]

4 hours ago, Debithius said:

Democrats are honestly just as **** in many aspects. It doesn't matter how pro anything or anti anything you are. If you can't make it work or deliver on even one of your promises then what are you doing as the president? Mind you, republicans are not that great either. Going far left or right won't create any balance.

 

I'm less offended by calling Democrats sh*t ('cause honestly, a duck is a duck or whatever the saying is) and more worried about people normalizing anything the GOP is doing right now.

The Democrats are a bad political party. Morally bad? It's a mixed bag. Bad as in ineffective? Oh hell yeah.

The Republicans are literally evil and trying to turn this country into a racially cleansed theocracy/fascist state 

[PartySick 174,378]

1 hour ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

They realized they only have to not do the worst Republicans have done. Watch, as the Republicans become more radical and nationalist, the Democratic establishment will move more right as well. 

I disagree

I truly believe as demographics continue to change in this country, we'll continue moving farther and farther left as we have been for decades.

The Republicans are the right wing and the only age group they enjoy majority support from is the 65+ crowd and...they ain't gonna live forever

[Chromatislaps 34,854]

6 hours ago, pachinko said:

I might just need to switch parties at this point. Wtf. 

either party would do the same. Trump wouldn't make a difference. The whole systems needs to become a multi party democracy at this point