tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Lina Morgana was a basic b---h. It's sad she killed herself, but Gaga had no reason to copy her or kill her. Lina was never going to be famous. There are hundreds of Lina Morgana's out there, even now. Just tune in to any of those singing competitions and you'll find another version of her. Even on this song, Gaga's feature steals the show. Lina's mother is a b---h for using her dead daughter to get publicity. It's pretty gross actually. As for Gaga using her as an alter ego, sure why not. I am sure she was effected by Lina's death, but she didn't have anything to do with it. People who believe that need their heads examined. I'm pretty sure that if Gaga had killed herself prior to the Fame, you'd also consider her a basic b---h. Before becoming Gaga, she was in the Stefani Germanotta Band and it was hardly iconic or memorable. Gaga has come a long way and whose to say that Lina wouldn't have. You should actually search deeper on YouTube and you'll see some of Lina's low budget music videos. You'll see a lot of the Fame imagery. Keep in mind, this was BEFORE The Fame even existed. I am in no way saying that Gaga "stole" from her or had anything to do with her death, but it's uncanny and it's safe to say that Gaga may have been inspired by Lina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFameKills 1,600 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Don't know if AP, but I just read this about the paparazzi song/video: That's interesting, but why would Lina be her biggest fan, even methaphorically, they barely knew each other. wish ya good fortune in tha wars 2 come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGster 2 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I believe that's what I said. I don't think "DEVACELLI" means anything. Devercelli (or De Vercelli), however, is an Italian surname. I know you mentioned that. I was just backing you up so others know the truth. She had explained her stage name in an interview. "Morgana" is what she wanted to be as stated by her. She also talked about her mother (which was present in the interview) but for some reason it was taken down a long with several of her other interviews that were available. "Devacelli" can be an anagram that gaga uses... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I know you mentioned that. I was just backing you up so others know the truth. She had explained her stage name in an interview. "Morgana" is what she wanted to be as stated by her. She also talked about her mother (which was present in the interview) but for some reason it was taken down a long with several of her other interviews that were available. "Devacelli" can be an anagram that gaga uses... Yeah, I noticed that a lot of videos on YouTube that were once available of Lina are no longer available. I wish I had saved them. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFameKills 1,600 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 "Devacelli" can be an anagram that gaga uses... ****, it's the DaVinci Code all over again it's getting more and more interesting if it turns out to be an anagram of something wish ya good fortune in tha wars 2 come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 ****, it's the DaVinci Code all over again it's getting more and more interesting if it turns out to be an anagram of something The **** we come up with when we're bored.... but knowing Gaga, there's probably a mystery or an undertone symbolism behind quite a few things she's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGster 2 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Yeah, I noticed that a lot of videos on YouTube that were once available of Lina are no longer available. I wish I had saved them. :( I found the video where she shows the book for her name. It's on here http://linamorgana.com/videos/ Cick on Pitch Tape and go to 4:40 if you just want to skip ahead from the interview. ****, it's the DaVinci Code all over again it's getting more and more interesting if it turns out to be an anagram of something The problem with anagrams is that we can arrange it several different ways, but still not have a clue if we don't know the language or meaning of the final word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I found the video where she shows the book for her name. It's on here http://linamorgana.com/videos/ Cick on Pitch Tape and go to 4:40 if you just want to skip ahead from the interview. Ah, yes! There it is. What about the "Famesque" low budget video she made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFameKills 1,600 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I found the video where she shows the book for her name. It's on here http://linamorgana.com/videos/ Cick on Pitch Tape and go to 4:40 if you just want to skip ahead from the interview. omg, look at the comment secton on that site.....it's so creepy:toofloppy: http://linamorgana.com/comments/354/ it's just sad how people spend their time on this wish ya good fortune in tha wars 2 come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Regardless of whether all of this is true, I think it's all so interesting. It's interesting how much symbolism you could link to this. I wonder what Gaga thinks about all of this? (I guess that would depend on what the real story behind all of this is) Gaga is such an interesting person and there's so so much you can 'a--lyse' from her. Edit: I'm doing some google searching and I came accross this Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Morgana-Devacelli/400752203326851 :toofunny: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It's crazy that there can be this much connection and symbolism but no connection between Gaga and Lina. On the outside, the only connection is Rob Fusari and Wonderland/Wunderland. And the fact that she wanted to be famous really really bad. Although her sound is very similar to the Stefani Germanotta sound, not going to lie. But so what? Like SLUT said, a lot of people have that sound and turn out to be nobodies. But their sound is SO similar, it's eerie. I think that's what makes this so eerie - from the brunette hair to the body to the clothes to the music to the voice to the inspiration - it's so close to Stefani. Maybe Rob Fusari is behind it all. Could it be possible that Lina and Rob had a relationship? But he then realized Gaga was the one who could actually become a famous and told her exactly what do do - steal this girl's image and make it her own. Because if you watch the videos on her website, it's clear that her "getting famous" days were very similar to Gaga's. The Devacelli being an anagram thing is intriguing. Or perhaps "Morgana Devacelli" is the anagram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) omg, look at the comment secton on that site.....it's so creepy :toofloppy: http://linamorgana.com/comments/354/ it's just sad how people spend their time on this Yeah, this was pointed out earlier. It's strange that these are the ONLY two comments on the page. EDIT: Nevermind, I see where you just included the link to that one particular comment. :toofloppy: Edited December 28, 2012 by SLUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa 169 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) It's crazy that there can be this much connection and symbolism but no connection between Gaga and Lina. On the outside, the only connection is Rob Fusari and Wonderland/Wunderland. And the fact that she wanted to be famous really really bad. Although her sound is very similar to the Stefani Germanotta sound, not going to lie. But so what? Like SLUT said, a lot of people have that sound and turn out to be nobodies. But their sound is SO similar, it's eerie. I think that's what makes this so eerie - from the brunette hair to the body to the clothes to the music to the voice to the inspiration - it's so close to Stefani. Maybe Rob Fusari is behind it all. Could it be possible that Lina and Rob had a relationship? But he then realized Gaga was the one who could actually become a famous and told her exactly what do do - steal this girl's image and make it her own. Because if you watch the videos on her website, it's clear that her "getting famous" days were very similar to Gaga's. The Devacelli being an anagram thing is intriguing. Or perhaps "Morgana Devacelli" is the anagram. Wonderland and Wunderland are two different songs and are completely unrelated. Rob Fusari and Lady Gaga had an intimate relationship, even though he was engaged. I don't know about Lina or anybody else. I know that Lady Starland (NOT Starlight) and Rob Fusari both claim to have created Gaga's look. If this is true, then Gaga isn't solely responsible for "stealing" Lina's look. However, what I find strange is that not long ago (nearly a year ago), Rob Fusari was on about how Lina was the real deal and Gaga was not (on his twitter). Obviously he's very bitter... Gaga ended up leaving him behind when she went to Interscope, even though he was the one to introduce her to Cherry Tree (an Indie label owned by Interscope). Edited December 28, 2012 by SLUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wonderland and Wunderland are two different songs and are completely unrelated. Rob Fusari and Lady Gaga had an intimate relationship, even though he was engaged. I don't know about Lina or anybody else. I know that Lady Starland (NOT Starlight) and Rob Fusari both claim to have created Gaga's look. If this is true, then Gaga isn't solely responsible for "stealing" Lina's look. However, what I find strange is that not long ago (nearly a year ago), Rob Fusari was on about how Lina was the real deal and Gaga was not (on his twitter). Obviously he's very bitter... Gaga ended up leaving him behind when she went to Interscope, even though he was the one to introduce her to Cherry Tree (an Indie label owned by Interscope). Maybe he's just bitter Gaga ditched him, and probably wishing he chose Lina instead, but then again, why did he have to make that choice? Because it seems like it was a choice, which is where people get the "Lina was the sacrifice" story. Does anyone know anything about Lana's career before she died? Was it going anywhere? Was she with a label? Was Rob still managing her? Was she in the stages of putting out an album? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperous 0 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think Morgana Devacelli is a kind of an alter ego, but I also feel we are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Here are my thoughts: As we all know, Gaga writes all her songs herself and also the videos are all her ideas. She said herself once that her songs are own experiences or inspirations. We know for sure that Gaga and Lina knew each other, and if she really was inspired by her, or tries to copy her, we can at least say that Gaga liked her. Gaga was Brunette also before she became famous. Often enough she said that she had the feeling that she has to be blonde to be famous. I think she mixes her own feelings and experiences and the feelings and exeriences from other people for herself. Lina: Lina was a brunette singer, which tried to be famous. Who knows, maybe her and Gaga knew each other better than we know and Gaga knows something we don't know. Maybe the reasons why she could have submitted suicide. I think Monster ans Paparazzi could be songs about her. Gaga herself never experienced to be thrown of a balcony. Maybe this was symbolic for Lina's death. She might not been pushed, but maybe the guy pushing her in the video was just symbolic. Maybe Lina did suicide as she was unhappy in love or was cheated on. Maybe the guy also symbolises the pressure she experienced from the media or her producers. So in a way a guy or the pressure "pushed" her to commit suicide. The lyrics are "I'm your biggest fan, I follow you until you love me." Maybe it was an homage to Lina, which she liked a lot and was a fan of. The Lyrics in Monster also would fit to the Situation that a Monster ate the heart of a girl and "destroyed" it. That she then survives and strikes back could just show that you should never give up and that real fame and talent can't be killed and will always life (also if it is through Gaga as an alter ego). Maybe through this alter ego Gaga wants to tell the real story of Lina and let her live the dream. Like she is giving Lina the fame she wanted and deserved. I don't think she copies Lina, she just let's the spirit from Lina live in the alter ego and the music. Also we know that Gaga is scared herself that the fame will kill her and we all know how scared she was to be refused as a Brunette. Maybe Lina was refused as a Brunette from several sides and that's what made this fear stronger for Gaga. As "Gaga" she can share her own experiences with us, how her career was. As "Jo" she can be something she can't be normally and she things she wouldn't say normally. Who knows who really inspired "Jo". As "Morgana" she can share experiences from others, which impacted her life and career. Maybe that's why "Morgana" was never an official alter ego, because Gaga never wanted people to think that she makes fun of Lina or uses her. I think she rather wants Linas spirit to life, to give her the respect and fame she deserved. Maybe she was really somehow so shocked from Lina's dead (because she had the same fears as Lina and was scared of ending the same way) that she felt like Lina is haunting her. That's why she created the alter ego to give her the fame she wanted Lina to have. As we all know Gaga is inspired by many people, as also by her aunt Joanne which was also very talented and never had the fame she deserved. Candy Warhol could be the bad side of fame, the things which are actually bad about it in general. And Morgana is just an homage to Lina to keep her spirit alive and tell a side of her story. If Morgana is actually a real alter ego, I don't see it as a bad or un-respectful thing, rather as a nice way to appreciate her. I hope you understand what I mean and sorry when I am reaching so far. I just find all of this so interesting. Never be afraid to dream... believe in them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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