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nATAH
3 hours ago, dit said:

I do not care for their sandwiches tbh. They are always wet and gushy like a WAP. But if it can make more people healthy as it is is allegedly a better choice than other junk food restaurants then so be it...the obesity crisis in the US is unhinged (not that there is an issue with being obese or big but if it hampers your health of course then it is a problem). 

at first i thought this comment was just unrelated babbling but i just clocked Subway :bradley:

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4 hours ago, Varys said:

Like how do huge cities like houston or dallas don't have them? In Europe many cities 1/4th the size have a subway/metro...

As in no train services at all for within the city itself or just no subways?

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AJRocketMan
11 minutes ago, Aussie said:

As in no train services at all for within the city itself or just no subways?

No train services at all. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Cars and cars only.

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Shipper
2 hours ago, AJRocketMan said:

Where’s the “gross” reaction when you need one? 🤢 My rent is $600/month!!!

I drive an hour and a half to 2 hours one way to go to my internship. Traffic is so bad during rush hour traffic most especially fridays. 

I'm also temporarily moving to LA for a few months and my tiny guesthouse costs $1950 a month. 

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1 hour ago, Shipper said:

I drive an hour and a half to 2 hours one way to go to my internship. Traffic is so bad during rush hour traffic most especially fridays. 

I'm also temporarily moving to LA for a few months and my tiny guesthouse costs $1950 a month. 

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Yikes. You’re better off renting a room in an apartment with roommates. Some Airbnb’s do that.

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Fresco

If buses could have high speed, and no congested traffic, they would be more effective than transit rail.  Bus stops also should have status displays to show when the next bus is expected and for which route, and next stop.

But I frankly don't like to ride on packed subways or even buses, except when the routes are really specific and useful, like in Vegas or around stadiums. Someone is usually sick or obnoxious.

The near future will probably be in driverless electric AI robot taxis on normal roads. 

 

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Shipper
2 hours ago, AJRocketMan said:

Yikes. You’re better off renting a room in an apartment with roommates. Some Airbnb’s do that.

I dont want roomates cause im an introvert and dont want to be bothered to talk to people when i just woke up or just got home. There were cheaper options but i wanted a place and kitchen all to myself.

The place is close to the hospital i will be working at so no more $600 gas anymore. 

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Reducing of car traffic is actually the only way how to reduce CO2 emisions caused by individual transport. Even with electromobiles, the source of emisions only moves from your car to powerplant, but they are still there. Basicly, it all depends on good urban planing - polycentric walkable cities without separated functions of city parts such as housing and working. And also good public transport. I know that public transport can be a scary term for americans, but many Europeans including me think, that having a car is not necessary. I live in city with 1,3milion people, we have metro, trams, buses, ferry, city trains and you can get anywhere within hour without having to wait in traffic jams. Public transport here is clean, cheap, and almost everybody from every social group use it. Moreover, cities in Europe ale becoming even more walkable, as in urban development walking has much more priority than cars. Even birthplace, which is a small town with around 30k people have very effective public transport. You can easily get to almost any small village around using train. 

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Varys
12 hours ago, Fresco said:

If buses could have high speed, and no congested traffic, they would be more effective than transit rail.  Bus stops also should have status displays to show when the next bus is expected and for which route, and next stop.

But I frankly don't like to ride on packed subways or even buses, except when the routes are really specific and useful, like in Vegas or around stadiums. Someone is usually sick or obnoxious.

The near future will probably be in driverless electric AI robot taxis on normal roads. 

 

these busses alreadt exist but they are not the great solution you think they are i fear. He also made a video about this

 

on the topic of self driving cars you might wanna watch this. its defitnely not happening in the near future

 

 

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bionic

Geologically, how much of the US landmass can actually withhold the physics of an underground without a HUGE investment in creating viable tunnel networks that won't cause the land above to sink

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Varys
3 minutes ago, bionic said:

Geologically, how much of the US landmass can actually withhold the physics of an underground without a HUGE investment in creating viable tunnel networks that won't cause the land above to sink

you don't need tunnels to build a metro/subway. They can be elevated or at grade or in a trech.

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StressedOut

Dallas does have rail though? It's also pretty expansive, I used to use it every morning to go to school. And then once that takes me as far as I can go, I would just hop on a bus to get closer to final destination and then just walk the rest of the way. And then just reverse to go back home. 

US I feel like might be too far gone for communal public transit system to solve the problems we have. Also doesn't help that US is v individualist as opposed to more collectivist societies. The way our cities are built make a car a necessity, not a luxury. It also doesn't help that people conflate owning/driving a car as a personal freedom. 

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11 hours ago, Gabi001 said:

Reducing of car traffic is actually the only way how to reduce CO2 emisions caused by individual transport. Even with electromobiles, the source of emisions only moves from your car to powerplant, but they are still there. Basicly, it all depends on good urban planing - polycentric walkable cities without separated functions of city parts such as housing and working. And also good public transport. I know that public transport can be a scary term for americans, but many Europeans including me think, that having a car is not necessary. I live in city with 1,3milion people, we have metro, trams, buses, ferry, city trains and you can get anywhere within hour without having to wait in traffic jams. Public transport here is clean, cheap, and almost everybody from every social group use it. Moreover, cities in Europe aming even more walkable, as in urban development walking has much more priority than cars. Even birthplace, which is a small town with around 30k people have very effective public transport. You can easily get to almost any small village around using train. 

This. 

I honestly can't imagine a city, even a small one, without public transport. Even here in my tiny 3000 inhabitants village are two bus lines running to the train stations in the next bigger towns from which trains bring you in no time (around 30 minutes) to the city, airport and so on. I own a car, too, because it's a semi rural area after all, but I only use it for going on hiking trips, taking elderly relatives to the doctor and such and. Otherwise I get around pretty well by bike, feet or public transport, which costs are also covered 100% by my employer. Of course sometimes trains are full, hot or delayed, but it's still so much easier and more comfortable than paying all the car related costs and have the parking place hassle (which, to be fair, probably isn't that much of a problem in US cities than in small European city centers.) Still, life must be so stressful when one is dependent on cars only.

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Joaco95
22 hours ago, dit said:

I do not care for their sandwiches tbh. They are always wet and gushy like a WAP. But if it can make more people healthy as it is is allegedly a better choice than other junk food restaurants then so be it...the obesity crisis in the US is unhinged (not that there is an issue with being obese or big but if it hampers your health of course then it is a problem). 

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AJRocketMan
17 hours ago, Shipper said:

I dont want roomates cause im an introvert and dont want to be bothered to talk to people when i just woke up or just got home. There were cheaper options but i wanted a place and kitchen all to myself.

The place is close to the hospital i will be working at so no more $600 gas anymore. 

Living alone is a privilege, not an entitlement. If you can’t afford to alone, then you can not afford it. Never live beyond your means just so you can have a kitchen and bathroom all to yourself.

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