What’s your Gaga hill that you’ll die on?

[ChicaSkas 22,342]

57 minutes ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

I get you, I was just checking. Really sad because I'm pretty certain a lot of her "underground" stuff that I love like Dirty Ice Cream, Fancy Pants, etc is by Fusari right?

Yes, those are all great little bops, I think the song writing was 50/50 on them 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

4 hours ago, Medusa said:

This version of Aura though

I heard it when it leaked before ARTPOP or Applause came out and I was so gutted that her vocals were changed, it hit as hard as Bad Romance imo

Yes of course I meant the superior and original Aura Gaga wanted released 

She probably got mad they forced her to change the verse vocals so she rebeled and leaked her vision 

Then again...her tweet with Zedd about the album version being what they wanted is a load of **** imo

[enissa11 2,984]

4 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

As much as I adore the album itself and the message, Chromatica (as a whole) is one of her least unique albums and is overly repetitive. Imo, lyrically it's really missing that Gaga flare, like in songs like MTN, EoG, JAD, LoveGame, etc.

EDIT: To be clear, by "flare" I guess I mean abstract or "uniqueness" or creative. As impactful as many of the lyrics are, I felt the album overall was too formulated (verse-chorus-verse-chrorus(bridge)chorus(X2) none of the songs had room to breathe with instrumentation or vocal ad libs or anything like that. Hopefully I explained it better 

honestly, that's just not true, the only songs that are kinda like that are 911, enigma and maybe fun tonight, and yet there are some un usual things and off putting things in the structure and overall construction of the songs. Most songs on chromatica doesn't even have proper choruses, they follow the house and techno dance structures that are crescendos, building ups to beat drops and bridges, and yet they way they are constructed change from song to song which makes them not predictable at first listen, alice, rain on me, free woman, replay, sine from above etc are all constructed this way

[butthole 9,789]

Chromatica is a wet blanket of an album.

The editing in the Perfect Illusion video is incoherent.

I really liked most of the Enigma looks. The purple one is gutter bucket though.

[enissa11 2,984]

that she is a visionary and simply the best pop artist debuted in this century, naming the team of creative people she works with Haus of Gaga like Bahaus and The Factory, and then also giving a name to her fanbase, everything to create a sense of community, they were all smart and genius moves from a genuine visionary that knows history of art and pop music, and not just that but is also a beautiful and caring person.

[gagata 695]

6 hours ago, FudgeyBear said:

Title. Mine is that Stupid Love is actually a hella bop and the music video is a lot of fun. 
 

lol. stupid love is a club banger, just went to a gay club in Saint P, Russia and people lost their **** to it

[Tyler1992 2,161]

Chromatica is her darkest album masked with upbeat sounds.

Million Reasons music video intentionally looks like a Hallmark video.

Gaga helped provoke her downfall with ARTPOP (an amazing album).

 

[Delulu Rogers 6,961]

A lot of ARTPOP's mishaps were a direct result of gaga's decisions 

She doesn't care at all about chromatica 

She takes herself too seriously now and has lost that flare that she had pre-joanne 

[Rahrahbitchson 17,588]

Her superbowl show is the best halftime show EVER. You can check it on any youtube video and the comments on them. The praise was/is incredible, the show was out of this world and she sang BTW at SB at TEXAS. 

[enissa11 2,984]

2 hours ago, Tyler1992 said:

Gaga helped provoke her downfall with ARTPOP (an amazing album).

 

1 hour ago, Delulu Rogers said:

A lot of ARTPOP's mishaps were a direct result of gaga's decisions 

could you elaborate please? in my mind it was mostly because her label contradict gaga's preferences and vision everytime regarding the execution of the roll out, like for example her wanting aura as the lead and the label forcing applause, and then gaga wanting venus as the second single and the label forcing do what u want etc etc, also the betrayal of some people in her team that were just after the money and also her manager, i think it wasn't her fault at all and if she could've avoided those things she undoubtedly would've made something

[ElectricAlley 1,729]

I’m glad aura wasn’t the lead single for ARTPOP, it would have absolutely bombed and would have gotten ZERO radio airplay. 
 

joanne was a cute idea but the album is too all over the place, and dancing in circles was a weird song to put on an album that was supposed to be a personal album for her family. 
 

Chromatica promo shouldn’t have stalled, I believe there were alternatives Gaga’s team could have done and radio interviews or a presence from Gaga would have helped the album have more longevity. 
 

House of Gucci was a good movie. 

[Supersonic 49,376]

That Bad Romance isn't that special

[TasteLikeWhiskey 1,561]

The Born This Way Ball

Whether it is her best... Or anyone else's best.... 

It is the hill that I will die on. 

Love this topic @FudgeyBear

[Pennywise 35,841]

Joanne is her most mediocre album with almost no replay value and has aged horribly 

 

 

[LilyLark 9,928]

3 hours ago, enissa11 said:

 

could you elaborate please? in my mind it was mostly because her label contradict gaga's preferences and vision everytime regarding the execution of the roll out, like for example her wanting aura as the lead and the label forcing applause, and then gaga wanting venus as the second single and the label forcing do what u want etc etc, also the betrayal of some people in her team that were just after the money and also her manager, i think it wasn't her fault at all and if she could've avoided those things she undoubtedly would've made something

Gaga, imo, pretty clearly had some serious issues around the time of ARTPOP. Some of her artistic choices around the time (agreeing to R Kelly, the vomit-despite the intention) were obvs. not going to go well over with the public. She also came across as high/drunk in some interviews and just poorly in others.

That said, Troy publicly had a very acrimonious split (professional relationship) with Eve, too, so it's also clear that he was a bad manager (even if Gaga was having difficulties) if things ended badly with two major stars on his watch. I believe it was John Legend (not sure) but some music journalist also tweeted back in the day about Troy having issues with yet another client. And if you look at her touring schedule-insane, compared to the standard tours-when she was having health difficulties at the time...it's clear he saw her as a money machine.

And as much as I love Aura and Venus, in terms of the general public-and not hardcore stans-they seem like they would be bad choices for singles compared to stuff like DWUW and Applause.

So yeah, I can see people saying that Gaga was partially responsible for her own downfall around ARTPOP....but she also legitimately had serious health/addiction issues, a large part of the entertainment media wanted her to fail (like they do with many successful women, like look at how they turned on JLaw a few years back), and she had some bad people on her team.