Teletubby 149,867 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 The Brit Awards have introduced gender-neutral gongs in place of male and female categories Prizes at the 2022 ceremony will be handed out to the artist of the year and the international artist of the year The new award categories replace best male and female solo artist and best international male and female solo artist The Brit Awards ceremony will return on February 8 2022, with Mo Gilligan on hosting duties, replacing Jack Whitehall, who has helmed the event in recent years. source The full category list for 2022 will be as follows: Artist of the Year with YouTube Music Group of the Year BRITs Rising Star supported by BBC Radio 1 Best New Artist Song of the Year with Mastercard Mastercard Album of the Year International Artist of the Year International Group of the Year Alternative/Rock Act Pop/R&B Act Dance Act Hip Hop/Rap/Grime Act "You b*tch!" ~ Rat Boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Imagine if this was the 80s and Michael Jackson just released Thriller and all female artists have zero chance of winning any award bcs it's all gender neutral lol but now since everyone is mediocre we won't see any impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: Imagine if this was the 80s and Michael Jackson just released Thriller and all female artists have zero chance of winning any award bcs it's all gender neutral exactly this! i'm confused, can someone explain how the new dynamic will work? so now females, males and gender fluid are all competing in all categories? it kinda makes sense, we should all strive for excelence, not just to be the best among our gender but overall aka the GOAT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, dojo said: exactly this! i'm confused, can someone explain how the new dynamic will work? so now females, males and gender fluid are all competing in all categories? it kinda makes sense, we should all strive for excelence, not just to be the best among our gender but overall aka the GOAT. I can totally understand this, I think it's kinda dope to have one single category and the best artist wins. But at the same time if you have best rapper category and let's imagine that in a decade the rap game is at its peak again, and there's a new Tupac, how are female rappers gonna compete against that? They'll win nothing. And same for MJ, if one male artist is truly popping like crazy nobody has a chance anymore. Having two different categories gave more chances for artists to win awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: Having two different categories gave more chances for artists to win awards Yes i totally understand but how having two categories would work for non binary people? Maybe we are missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, dojo said: Yes i totally understand but how having two categories would work for non binary people? Maybe we are missing something? You make a third category with demi, sam smith, and others and they have bigger chances to win too bcs they'll be fewer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wixson 5,004 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I hope film/TV related award shows keep things the way they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, AnnaNicoleSmith said: You make a third category with demi, sam smith, and others and they have bigger chances to win too bcs they'll be fewer it would be something like "Best Non Binary Pop Album" i think that would make things even more complicated and awards would lose even more relevance (is it even possible?) than now. I think it makes sense to just throw them all together and let the best one win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concertaholic 5,895 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, dojo said: exactly this! i'm confused, can someone explain how the new dynamic will work? so now females, males and gender fluid are all competing in all categories? it kinda makes sense, we should all strive for excelence, not just to be the best among our gender but overall aka the GOAT. Before 2012 all the Grammy awards had separate gendered categories.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Concertaholic said: Before 2012 all the Grammy awards had separate gendered categories.. thank you! like "best female pop album" and like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,675 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Ridiculous. If you have two great albums by a man and a woman - who wins? One of them has to suffer. If/when a man wins this awards - there will be cries that minorities didn't win. They could ALWAYS win if they had their own category - as could women. This makes no sense and harms the people it is meant to help. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On the surface, this seems awesome. But I feel this is a mistake. Gender based categories create an even playing field. Without them, women would never win anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletubby 149,867 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, dojo said: it would be something like "Best Non Binary Pop Album" they ony had male/female categories for artist of the year. "You b*tch!" ~ Rat Boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,403 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: I can totally understand this, I think it's kinda dope to have one single category and the best artist wins. But at the same time if you have best rapper category and let's imagine that in a decade the rap game is at its peak again, and there's a new Tupac, how are female rappers gonna compete against that? They'll win nothing. And same for MJ, if one male artist is truly popping like crazy nobody has a chance anymore. Having two different categories gave more chances for artists to win awards It just shows how artificial awards really are. Haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azul 2,099 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I think this is a trap for female artists and gender non-conforming people. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this new language rules and the new society we are trying to create, in good faith, it's going to make resurging old problems that we, as a society, have been trying to solve for centuries. I'm talking about the silencing of the female experience or queer experience. I'm not optimistic about the future. I'm sorry if I'm being ignorant or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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