DOC - SOME songs sound more reimagined...

[Bobina 3,073]

than Remixed. 

Now, this is NOT a negative thing, I actually think it's what makes the album so damn good to me. I was just thinking that a lot of the songs on DOC sound more like BTW reimagined, than remixed. Songs like Fun Tonight, Free Woman, 911, Replay, all are examples of what I think sounds more reimagined than remixed with remix elements. While songs like Rain On Me, Alice, and 1000 Doves sound more like traditional remixes to me. Maybe I just haven't listened to enough remixes in my life time. 

Am I making it make sense? 

Thoughts?  

[Chromatica Island 8,517]

Thats what I was thinking too!

[River 118,210]

It's like the J to the Lo remix album, a few were traditional remixes and other were reimagined..

 

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

I think Reimagined is kinda just an umbrella term. 
And under it, you have remixes, covers, collabs, versions, etc. 

Either way, stream Free Woman with Rina because she ATE that. 

[Zombiecat 17,036]

8 minutes ago, Bobina said:

than Remixed. 

Now, this is NOT a negative thing, I actually think it's what makes the album so damn good to me. I was just thinking that a lot of the songs on DOC sound more like BTW reimagined, than remixed. Songs like Fun Tonight, Free Woman, 911, Replay, all are examples of what I think sounds more reimagined than remixed with remix elements. While songs like Rain On Me, Alice, and 1000 Doves sound more like traditional remixes to me. Maybe I just haven't listened to enough remixes in my life time. 

Am I making it make sense? 

Thoughts?  

a remix literally means 're imagined'  a new mix slightly or hugely different is still a remix

[Bobina 3,073]

6 minutes ago, PlasticWeave said:

a remix literally means 're imagined'  a new mix slightly or hugely different is still a remix

 

6 minutes ago, ShayCristoforo said:

I think Reimagined is kinda just an umbrella term. 
And under it, you have remixes, covers, collabs, versions, etc. 

Either way, stream Free Woman with Rina because she ATE that. 

See, this is probably where I'm getting my wires crossed. This makes sense  

Edit: I guess what confused me is that BTW was called reimagined and this a remix so I thought it was two different things.

[salty like sodium 2,015]

You all really need to listen to the Mariah Carey remix album to understand what remixes can and should be.

What makes these remixes is mainly that they are intended for club audiences imo.

[tylerjs 5,937]

I think this is just a matter of branding/project identity verbiage more than anything honestly 

[weed 74,584]

12 minutes ago, salty like sodium said:

You all really need to listen to the Mariah Carey remix album to understand what remixes can and should be.

What makes these remixes is mainly that they are intended for club audiences imo.

omg sis!!! I'm listening to Emotions (club mix) (bc it's the shortest track lol) and it's soo good!!!!

[salty like sodium 2,015]

1 minute ago, weed said:

omg sis!!! I'm listening to Emotions (club mix) (bc it's the shortest track lol) and it's soo good!!!!

That's actually not one of the most representative ones haha you should try "My All/Stay Awhile", "Anytime You Need a Friend (C&C Club Mix)" (the last 5 mins of this are better than anything else she's ever done imho) or "Honey (Classic Mix)". All feature entirely new vocals for most (if not the entire) song – as it should be for a remix !

[Chromatography 10,186]

and all the “traditional” remixes are the worst on the album. most remixes nowadays are lazy repeated loops and the same sort of beat that diminish what the song once was

[Bobina 3,073]

21 minutes ago, soularpower said:

I think this is just a matter of branding/project identity verbiage more than anything honestly 

Not that the reception for DOC is horrendous or anything, but I wonder if it would've been received better or had a larger audience if it was marked as Gaga's next "reimagined" album, since remixes seem to have a stigma around them 

[GagaSuperfan1 370]

1 hour ago, Bobina said:

than Remixed. 

Now, this is NOT a negative thing, I actually think it's what makes the album so damn good to me. I was just thinking that a lot of the songs on DOC sound more like BTW reimagined, than remixed. Songs like Fun Tonight, Free Woman, 911, Replay, all are examples of what I think sounds more reimagined than remixed with remix elements. While songs like Rain On Me, Alice, and 1000 Doves sound more like traditional remixes to me. Maybe I just haven't listened to enough remixes in my life time. 

Am I making it make sense? 

Thoughts?  

I see what you’re saying, what I think what will make it successful as well is that is has commercial mixes as well as more experimental that everyone may not be into. I personally like every single song on the album, but not everyone will. There’s a lot of variety, & so it’s going to appease many different tastes. Take a bite, take a bite. Dawn of Chromatica.

[tylerjs 5,937]

12 minutes ago, Bobina said:

Not that the reception for DOC is horrendous or anything, but I wonder if it would've been received better or had a larger audience if it was marked as Gaga's next "reimagined" album, since remixes seem to have a stigma around them 

I feel tho in the context of chromatica, “reimagined” doesn’t fit bc the album doesn’t have seniority yet, like it hasn’t realized it’s own longevity. btw has become an iconic staple that everyone, even many non-Gaga fans, know and identify as a cultural phenomenon. That means reimagining it makes more sense—everyone is familiar, it’s a landmark album with seniority, and the intention of the album was not just to be just remixed sonically but rather realigned with the community it was made for, acting as a vessel for them to express their experiences with what it means to them. Chromatica doesn’t have the seniority to be reimagined, as it’s still so new. To be branded as a reimagining this soon in its life without having the same cultural impact could seem that it needed the reconstructing out of necessity rather than desire and demand for a remix album. Remix fits better here too because the intention of this album was strictly to redesign the sonics for entertainment purposes, rather than as a sentiment for a specific marginalized community that was being handed the microphone to tell their own story through the album.

 

Idk maybe I’m reading too much into it but I had the time to write what I thought so 

[Ziggy 12,050]

1 hour ago, Bobina said:

than Remixed. 

Now, this is NOT a negative thing, I actually think it's what makes the album so damn good to me. I was just thinking that a lot of the songs on DOC sound more like BTW reimagined, than remixed. Songs like Fun Tonight, Free Woman, 911, Replay, all are examples of what I think sounds more reimagined than remixed with remix elements. While songs like Rain On Me, Alice, and 1000 Doves sound more like traditional remixes to me. Maybe I just haven't listened to enough remixes in my life time. 

Am I making it make sense? 

Thoughts?  

I wouldn’t say ROM is a “traditional” remix like you’re talking about. It’s just Arca’s individual style that makes it *seem* like a typical remix but its structure is actually fairly straightforward. People are paying ROM dust, if you ask me. The intention behind it is so so beautiful. Arca made a remix that was meant to capture the euphoria people were feeling listening to the song in the pandemic, just enjoying and loving and feeling free. It’s actually the most heartfelt mix imo. It’s so touching to hear they care that much for the song. Like they said, it’s for the dolls lmao.