Rolling Stone: Lady Gaga's Dog Walker Is Finally Ready to Talk

[Lextyr97 19,319]

Just now, OMonster said:

What is so shocking about what I said?

Because

1. her net worth does not equal money in the bank

2. we have no ounce of an idea what her expenses are even like

3. she did PLENTY for Ryan. Covering all his medical bills and allowing him to live at Gaga’s house while also sending out a trauma professional. The most I would’ve expected in Ryan’s situation was my medical bills paid. Nothing more. Gaga did more than enough. She’s not gonna just willy nilly hand him 10 million dollars. 

[LilyLark 9,968]

1 hour ago, freebit said:

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- I think Gaga should just pay this dude and should have in the first place - its just common sense & a stupid mistake not to, and she is paying the price. It's like, sis, just pay him so he can live this #vanlife and wannabe documentarian thing out & be on his way.  I know there's a part of her that is a haggling New Yorker, but there's a point where you are being a cheapskate. Kind of confuses me because a lot of people have said she's a great tipper. 

- this dogwalker/assistant duo give weird grifter vibes - moreso the assistant. Seems like a friend is trying to put the squeeze on Gaga for both herself & him. Maybe this is why Gaga's team seems to want nothing to do with him/them. 

- Rolling Stone is desperate for clicks (makes sense as the magazine industry is dying a slow death). 

Yup. This happened in the past...if I remember correctly, with the assistant she had like a decade ago who stole from her. Gaga, tbf, was in the midst of her mental health and drug issues and probably was a sh*tty boss at the time, but the assistant also complained in court about having to microwave food and other basic tasks and compared it to being a slave (the assistant was a white girl, so a horrible comparison). 

Anyway, if I remember correctly it came out in court that Gaga never made the assistant work more than 40 hours a week but Gaga still technically owed her overtime due to some loophole in the contract (like the flexible schedule thing wasn't clearly spelled out, etc.). I think her team offered her a sum of money but she wanted more so the girl sued and Gaga ended up having to give her like 200k.

Anyway, you're right...sometimes she needs to stop haggling and just cut a big check even if it's not really required. In this case, I think she did enough for Ryan (she was hardly his only employer, he had other people he worked for) and I bet she did offer a check in addition to the 3 months of financial support he admits she paid, the housing, the therapist, and the medical bills. But she really should have just offered him like 250k right off the bat to make this all go away.

[LilyLark 9,968]

Just now, TylerBR97 said:

Because

1. her net worth does not equal money in the bank

2. we have no ounce of an idea what her expenses are even like

3. she did PLENTY for Ryan. Covering all his medical bills and allowing him to live at Gaga’s house while also sending out a trauma professional. The most I would’ve expected in Ryan’s situation was my medical bills paid. Nothing more. Gaga did more than enough. She’s not gonna just willy nilly hand him 10 million dollars. 

I think she could have arguably done more, but financial support for 3 months post hospitalization (when she was hardly his only employer), housing, medical bills, a therapist, etc. is still a lot and more than fair imo. If that happened to me, I would expect my medical bills to be paid plus my missing salary while I was in the hospital & maybe for a few weeks post hospitalization.  I wouldn't expect housing + basically being covered financially for 3 months after I got out of the hospital.

[Born2Gay 48]

I have some sympathy for Ryan, but he sounds a little like an opportunist. In his defense, if I almost died over some celebrities dogs, I'd milk the situation for anything I could get too.

[Mother of Puppies 35,962]

27 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

I think she could have arguably done more, but financial support for 3 months post hospitalization (when she was hardly his only employer), housing, medical bills, a therapist, etc. is still a lot and more than fair imo. If that happened to me, I would expect my medical bills to be paid plus my missing salary while I was in the hospital & maybe for a few weeks post hospitalization.  I wouldn't expect housing + basically being covered financially for 3 months after I got out of the hospital.

I doubt that he was her employee because employees do not write invoices... if he writes invoices Gaga was his client like the other dog owners. It wasn't just Gaga's dogs that he took care of.

[OMonster 14,639]

Honestly, I think I just have a different view on wealth and generosity than most in this thread. I can't imagine having millions in the bank, never having to worry about money and NOT giving substantial amounts to those around me when they go through really traumatic events. That feels so... inhumane to me.

[OMonster 14,639]

12 minutes ago, TylerBR97 said:

Because

1. her net worth does not equal money in the bank

2. we have no ounce of an idea what her expenses are even like

3. she did PLENTY for Ryan. Covering all his medical bills and allowing him to live at Gaga’s house while also sending out a trauma professional. The most I would’ve expected in Ryan’s situation was my medical bills paid. Nothing more. Gaga did more than enough. She’s not gonna just willy nilly hand him 10 million dollars. 

1. Oh come on. You know full well she's got millions in the bank. Maybe not 300... but more than enough to share 90% of it and still be among the most elite and wealthiest in the world.

2. You think Gaga touches her savings for expenses? No way. Brand deals and royalty fees will more than fund her day-to-day lifestyle.

3. Again, I'll reiterate my point: she did a lot, but she could've done more. That's undeniable. And I suggested $500k to be a very generous and proportionate offer - not $10 million. 

[LaLa 19,290]

3 minutes ago, OMonster said:

Honestly, I think I just have a different view on wealth and generosity than most in this thread. I can't imagine having millions in the bank, never having to worry about money and NOT giving substantial amounts to those around me when they go through really traumatic events. That feels so... inhumane to me.

For what it's worth, I agree with you re: the obligations of the wealthy. Sure, Gaga did more than was legally required, and it seems like a lot of people think she did more than she was morally obligated too. I just think how fkin grateful I'd be if someone -- whether a loved one or a stranger -- took a bullet for my cat, and how much I'd want to do for them if I could. 

I do think there must be more to the story though, and am withholding any judgment of Gaga for that reason.

 

[Mother of Puppies 35,962]

1 hour ago, OMonster said:

Her actions aren't proportionate to her wealth. She let him stay in her empty Hollywood house and sent a therapist every week for three months. That's not proportionate to someone worth over $300m+.

I adore Gaga but I'm not blinded by that. Anyone with her level of wealth should do more to help those nearest to her. That's my opinion and it's on the basis that she clearly hasn't given a substantial amount (relative to her wealth) or else this interview would've never happened. 

 

You know there is a story that I would like to tell... my parents once went out with some friends to go out for dinner. They all threw in some money to pay at the end, while their friends literally ordered the biggest plates and drink after drink. At the end those "friends" expected my parents to pay more than they did, not because they ate more, (my mom just had a salad and a a coke) No... they expected them to pay more simply because they "could" and "had the money" to do so. They said it exactly that way. (Maybe they were drunk but still)

We have had similar stories happening over the years... once u have a bit more money people will use you. I could tell plenty of unpleasant stories - and my parents aren't rich by any means - they just have more than the average person, because they have worked hard for it.

 

I do get your point in a way - she could've given a bit more to save herself this backlash for the least. It's a difficult topic.

@Born2Gay what’s so funny? 

[LilyLark 9,968]

10 minutes ago, OMonster said:

Honestly, I think I just have a different view on wealth and generosity than most in this thread. I can't imagine having millions in the bank, never having to worry about money and NOT giving substantial amounts to those around me when they go through really traumatic events. That feels so... inhumane to me.

I sort of get your point of view, but I also think a lot of us are used to people or corporations doing a lot less (like only covering medical or not even covering medical, etc.) so this isn't anything to raise an eyebrow about to us. Also if Gaga had a history of ripping people off it would be one thing, but for the most part she has a history of being fairly generous and a good tipper, etc.

Edited: I also do suspect she probably did offer more than what he and his "assistant" discussed, because her team did so in the past with the assistant who stole from her and all that drama..but I'm guessing it was probably 50-75k and not like 250-500k.

[Dojo 19,365]

1 hour ago, LaLa said:

Ryan himself being okay with what he was given by Gaga (or saying that to her anyway), and his friends and/or family (and assistant lol) sort of badgering him like "she's a millionaire! She owes you more!!" 

Like, he could feel awkward and like, "that's my friend, I don't want to take advantage" and his family is like "you're too nice, take her for all she's worth!"

 

i can see this being true, what a terrible mindset some people have

[LilyLark 9,968]

20 minutes ago, smitherz said:

all of this is just so weird… there’s got to be more to the story right? 

I thought so from the beginning. He admits she paid 3 months of financial support, medical, gave him housing, and a therapist...yeah, she could have done more, but she more than met her legal obligation and did enough on a moral level imo.

My guess is her team probably offered like 75k on top of that and wanted him to sign an NDA, he might have wanted more money slash was offended about having to sign an NDA slash tried to bargain, her team went "bye" (when they should have just cut him a check), and so he went to the press in revenge and/or to try and get a little more money from her. Her team has a history of refusing to just pay people off or not offering them much—that happened with the dumb lawsuit over Shallow, which the guy lost, and the assistant who stole from her (tbf Gaga wasn't completely in the right in that situation, either).

[Mother of Puppies 35,962]

21 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

I thought so from the beginning. He admits she paid 3 months of financial support, medical, gave him housing, and a therapist...yeah, she could have done more, but she more than met her legal obligation and did enough on a moral level imo.

My guess is her team probably offered like 75k on top of that and wanted him to sign an NDA, he might have wanted more money slash was offended about having to sign an NDA slash tried to bargain, her team went "bye" (when they should have just cut him a check), and so he went to the press in revenge and/or to try and get a little more money from her. Her team has a history of refusing to just pay people off or not offering them much—that happened with the dumb lawsuit over Shallow, which the guy lost, and the assistant who stole from her (tbf Gaga wasn't completely in the right in that situation, either).

What do u mean with „the assistant who stole from her (tbf Gaga wasn't completely in the right in that situation, either).“ ??

 

 Who stole what? And why wasn’t she in the right? 
 

Do you mean „hood rat“? 

[MOT 2,795]

Well, at least Gaga now knows what Ryan's friendship is worth. Ault put the amount on the invoice.

[G U C C I 5,397]

1 hour ago, OMonster said:

I just really, really struggle with Gaga having millions of dollars in the bank and not giving Ryan a really substantial figure to rebuild his life and at the very least support him for a year. I just - I don't get it? Why wouldn't she? I love her as an artist but I won't hold her to a different standard. It's not right. 

 

1 hour ago, OMonster said:

Her actions aren't proportionate to her wealth. She let him stay in her empty Hollywood house and sent a therapist every week for three months. That's not proportionate to someone worth over $300m+.

I adore Gaga but I'm not blinded by that. Anyone with her level of wealth should do more to help those nearest to her. That's my opinion and it's on the basis that she clearly hasn't given a substantial amount (relative to her wealth) or else this interview would've never happened. 

 

1 hour ago, OMonster said:

No. I don't buy that they'd go to the press in this way if Gaga had given 500k. There's no way. She provided initial support for three months and paid his medical bills. That's fine if you think that's enough but I personally don't and I know if I had her net worth I'd be more generous with it.

What kind of a bullshit fantasy world do live in to come up with this viewpoint? I couldn’t even manage to read past these few comments. For you and anyone who agrees with your comments in this thread I would urge you to live in this world and understand that no owes another human being a damn thing besides kindness and compassion and those two things will never equate to you being obligated into giving away your money, possessions, or time to others simply because your work in life blessed you with more. You sound like someone she should avoid at all costs because you would be one of the first with your hand out expecting something monetary in return instead of appreciating her for who she is. 
 

She was beyond kind and generous. He received free medical care, a safe and luxurious place to live while he recovered physically, and a personal therapist to assist him multiple times per week, and those things are only the ones we know about.