Supersonic 49,376 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, GucciGa said: What do they mean by Hough being white was a softener? Somebody answered it already but I just wanna give my two cents: It is a common occurance that black men get (wrongly) accused of rape by white women, so much that it had even become a trope in mainstream media (in the early 20th century there was entire subgenre of romantic/erotic novels that fantasized about virile black men raping white women, most of these books were written by white women novelists for an audience of other white women who wanted to indulge in "taboo" fantasies about interracial sex) Nicki alleging that the victim was a white woman was deliberately done to discredit the accusation of rape itself, it was done to specifically liken the accusation to that specific stereotype/media trope. She's maliciously using the plight of actual black men who got wrongly accused of being rapists (due to racism) to her own personal benefit and to the benefit of her actual rapist husband, because she is mildly inconvenienced by him being a registered sex offender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,645 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, SlaeUrAnus said: The Barbz cannot defend this SURELY!? Yes they can I’ve seen some say the documents are fake because they use “Minaj” instead of “Maraj” Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudraCNG 15,356 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Nicki when Jessie J talks about their collab Also Nicki when being accused of supporting pedophiles, rapists, sex abusers and silencing the victims Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, GucciGa said: Oh don't even dare compare these situations. That's truly disgusting. This is more than a "collaboration". Gaga barely knew R Kelly. And stop pretending that it was widely known that he was a rapist bc its not true. girl it IS true tho. he had multiple shady allegation before the collab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Chromatography said: girl it IS true tho. he had multiple shady allegation before the collab. Was it widely known and talked about? Did any mainstream outlet talk about it? Bc I followed pop culture for a long time and I certainly did not know about these accusations back then. 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, GucciGa said: Was it widely known and talked about? Did any mainstream outlet talk about it? Bc I followed pop culture for a long time and I certainly did not know about these accusations back then. well obviously it wasn’t talked about day in and day out but as a collaboration it’s the responsibility of the artist to know who they’re collaborating with. so it was known if you googled beyond 5 minutes about r kelly but it wasn’t thrown out daily on twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 13 hours ago, JusKeepBreathin said: I don't like Nicki but don't pretend Gaga hasn't worked with her share of trash. What Nicki did is not her collaborators fault. Just like it isn't Gaga's fault either. Oh I never gave Gaga the hall pass...im just glad she didn't ADD to it by collabing with Nicki during a time when many artists even today are forced to have her attached to their songs some without their knowledge as weird as that is Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 N*cki fans when they are faced with facts: So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 119,642 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GucciGa said: Was it widely known and talked about? Did any mainstream outlet talk about it? Bc I followed pop culture for a long time and I certainly did not know about these accusations back then. Very widely known actually, if it his illegal marriage to 15 years old Aaliyah, the first accusation that was settle for a big amount of money and then in the early 2000s the second accusation, which had a video of him so he couldn’t lie, that led him to court, it was all over the news, but he was not guilty at the end because the girl didn’t want to testify in court, so everybody took a deep breath, closed their eyes and moved on like nothing happen, Harvey-like situation.. Anyway, back to Nicki.. I don’t understand why people are surprised, where have you been all these years? One bop and you forget everything? So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 6 hours ago, GucciGa said: Oh don't even dare compare these situations. That's truly disgusting. This is more than a "collaboration". Gaga barely knew R Kelly. And stop pretending that it was widely known that he was a rapist bc its not true. Jimmy Iovine hired him to play at his wife's birthday party even after that collab and it was attended by tons of A list including Oprah and Gayle King. He didn't become persona non grata for a long time. Gaga works in an industry heaving with disgusting abusers. The odds of her never working with any of them is preposterous. She spent a few hours around an individual and has being held to ransom about it ever since, even after apologising and deleting their collab. But sure, knowingly dating and marrying a convicted rapist and harassing his victim is the same.. Yeesh Girl stop, my comment wasn't comparing Nicki to Gaga. (How f_cking ridiculous would that be.) It was comparing the people Nicki worked with to Gaga. For example I was saying Jessie J working with Nicki is similar to Gaga working with R. Kelly. I think you misunderstood my post. So please apologize, stop putting words in my mouth and move on. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, River said: Very widely known actually, if it his illegal marriage to 15 years old Aaliyah, the first accusation that was settle for a big amount of money and then in the early 2000s the second accusation, which had a video of him so he couldn’t lie, that led him to court, it was all over the news, but he was not guilty at the end because the girl didn’t want to testify in court, so everybody took a deep breath, closed their eyes and moved on like nothing happen, Harvey-like situation.. Anyway, back to Nicki.. I don’t understand why people are surprised, where have you been all these years? One bop and you forget everything? It's so easy to sit here in 2021 and claim that anyone associated with R Kelly did it knowing he was a rapist. Personally I think that's BS. It's a different time now where these accusations spread like wildfire. It wasn't like that in 2013 or whenever it was. And even if these rumours were around, it was much more "innocent until proven guilty" v "one whisper and your name trends and you're "cancelled". Nobody will ever convince me that Gaga knowingly and willingly worked with a rapist. 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 95,033 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, GucciGa said: It's so easy to sit here in 2021 and claim that anyone associated with R Kelly did it knowing he was a rapist. Personally I think that's BS. It's a different time now where these accusations spread like wildfire. It wasn't like that in 2013 or whenever it was. And even if these rumours were around, it was much more "innocent until proven guilty" v "one whisper and your name trends and you're "cancelled". Nobody will ever convince me that Gaga knowingly and willingly worked with a rapist. I mean she knowingly worked and supported war criminals and colonial states committing genocide and ethnic cleansing so I wouldn't be surprised Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 119,642 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 minute ago, GucciGa said: It's so easy to sit here in 2021 and claim that anyone associated with R Kelly did it knowing he was a rapist. Personally I think that's BS. It's a different time now where these accusations spread like wildfire. It wasn't like that in 2013 or whenever it was. And even if these rumours were around, it was much more "innocent until proven guilty" v "one whisper and your name trends and you're "cancelled". Nobody will ever convince me that Gaga knowingly and willingly worked with a rapist. The Aaliyah illegal marriage and the 1998 and 2002 cases were not rumors, but on going cases on the news. In her defense, she was a teenager so these kind of news can split away, I guess she was not that into R&B music like me at that time, but I followed the news as a teenager very closely. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, GucciGa said: It's so easy to sit here in 2021 and claim that anyone associated with R Kelly did it knowing he was a rapist. Personally I think that's BS. It's a different time now where these accusations spread like wildfire. It wasn't like that in 2013 or whenever it was. And even if these rumours were around, it was much more "innocent until proven guilty" v "one whisper and your name trends and you're "cancelled". Nobody will ever convince me that Gaga knowingly and willingly worked with a rapist. I’m pretty sure even Gaga herself said that she knew working with R. Kelly for that song was wrong and that it reflected how twisted her mental state was at the time. Don’t infantilize her to blindly defend her, she herself admitted to her mistake, the fans should as well instead of trying to excuse her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, River said: The Aaliyah illegal marriage and the 1998 and 2002 cases were not rumors, but on going cases on the news. In her defense, she was a teenager so these kind of news can split away, I guess she was not that into R&B music like me at that time, but I followed the news as a teenager very closely. I wasn't talking about the Aaliyah marriage though*. I'm specifically referring to his treatment and rape of young girls, which was really only whispered about in certain blogs at that time. *that was inexcusable but again literally nobody blacklisted him for that. Which says a lot about how messed up things were back then but I'm not going to hold Gaga accountable for that. Things have changed a lot. 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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