Bio 23,538 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MANiCURE 6 said: Nothing is good enough for 2021 Are you asian or latino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 alsemanche 87,364 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, MANiCURE 6 said: Nothing is good enough for 2021 ma'am the words are offensive for the people they refer to, they were never good enough Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 20,617 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Forgive my french ass but what does Chola even mean? Does it have a bad connotation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 littlepotter 72,868 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ARTGOD said: Absolutely not lmao. Even in 2011 it wasnât okay to call people beige, chola or orient . Yes... as an insult... why do some people pretend like she sang Born This Way to diss people?  Does the context not matter? Should I be insulted that singled out Lebanese people? chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 6 9,925 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bio said: Are you asian or latino? No and what about it ? Never said they were not offensive for the people it refers to. Just said they're good lyrics and nothing's good enough nowadays. This song literally is the anthem of acceptance and you still want to make it a problematic song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigio Guy 2,968 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 As a Latinx person, I didnât find the lyrics offensive. I CAN, however, see how some would deem the lyrics offensive and they have a right to do that. Yâall have to stop being so black and white about everything. There is so much grey in the world. Religion is a product to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 alsemanche 87,364 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Yes... as an insult... why do some people pretend like she sang Born This Way to diss people?  Does the context not matter? Should I be insulted that singled out Lebanese people? The words are derogatory (from what I understand at least) in themselves regardless of her intention. I know she didn't mean to trash those people obviously, but she can't pick and choose which words are offensive and when sadly. Lebanese is not a derogatory term in itself. Orient is less of a problem but it's still a very imperial term to refer to people are "Orient" or "Oriental" Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilbit 1,596 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Lucas said: Forgive my french ass but what does Chola even mean? Does it have a bad connotation? Itâs a name people use for Mexican women. cholo for men. Itâs a stereotype and itâs low key rude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 40,908 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Even Latino has its own conflicts as it groups people with whole different ethnic backgrounds and cultures and downplays real minorities struggles in the region.  I dont care about the new lyrics and the old ones btw, the message she was trying to convey was clear and only people predisposed to be insulted by them were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
js4754394o9823 6,882 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 and it's trangender, not gendered love a small update red wine, cheap perfume and a filthy pout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MANiCURE 6 said: No and what about it ? Never said they were not offensive for the people it refers to. Just said they're good lyrics and nothing's good enough nowadays. This song literally is the anthem of acceptance and you still want to make it a problematic song If itâs the anthem of acceptance how about not alienating people by calling them offensive names? Itâs pretty obvious to me. No one here is hating on Gaga, it was 10 years ago. But it was nice of him fixing the lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilbit 1,596 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MANiCURE 6 said: No and what about it ? Never said they were not offensive for the people it refers to. Just said they're good lyrics and nothing's good enough nowadays. This song literally is the anthem of acceptance and you still want to make it a problematic song Canât make a song about acceptance with the lyric cholo.  accept that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 96,460 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 GOT ME TWANGIN' HARD, HENNIES!   WE AIN'T GETTING DRAGGEDT TODAY! NOPE! (ïŸâăźâ)ïŸâ§*:ïœ„ïŸ be delulu until it becomes trululu (*ÂŽèžïœ*) âĄâĄâĄ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankMonster 468 Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, GagaSine said: Tbh I remember people complaining about the offensive lyrics when the song first came out, so I dunno about that I am Latin myself and never felt identified with the chola (that was for the Latin rep right) but neither offended. I mean I knew she meant well and the LGBTQ+ was her focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 She rolled my hair and put my lipstick on, In the glass of her boudoir The song was written with the intention of being an homage to disco anthems, thatâs reflected in the decidedly retro lyrics. Language and our perception of certain words is always changing, so if they want to update it to be more reflective of 2021 attitudes, thatâs fine. But the spirit of the original is far from offensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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