Economy 52,910 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://truthout.org/articles/days-after-hopeful-pfizer-vaccine-news-82-of-doses-bought-by-richest-nations/?amp The worlds wealthy Nations have bought 82% of all the administered plus soon comimg doses while 85% of the worlds population in developing and 3rd world Countries so far have 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Money talks, sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,452 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Shocking And because of this, I am thankful that the EU has bought the vaccines and is sharing them equally throughout the member states, or countries like mine (Portugal) would fight an impossible war with countries like Germany or France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,910 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, iAstroLeo said: Shocking And because of this, I am thankful that the EU has bought the vaccines and is sharing them equally throughout the member states, or countries like mine (Portugal) would fight an impossible war with countries like Germany or France. What i dont understand is how rich countries have that much more power to get them I thought each dose for most of these vaccines was $10 to $20 Even poor Countries if they make it a priority can afford some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith Grey 3,220 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 After America is vaccinated, I would hope Joe Biden helped other countries get their vaccines done and over with. It will help us and the entire world and would Probably do a lot to help our foreign relations after trump. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,452 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Economy said: What i dont understand is how rich countries have that much more power to get them I thought each dose for most of these vaccines was $10 to $20 Even poor Countries if they make it a priority can afford some What I'm guessing is that they have much more power to contact Pfizer and pay upfront, while poorer countries maybe don't have that opportunity. And Pfizer obviously wants the money to be guaranteed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Economy said: What i dont understand is how rich countries have that much more power to get them I thought each dose for most of these vaccines was $10 to $20 Even poor Countries if they make it a priority can afford some Wealthier countries have the ‘disposable’ income to invest in the vaccines during development, if it leads to a viable product that’s great, but if not whatever, they have their fingers in 100 pies. Poorer nations don’t have this kind of money to gamble with. likewise, priority will be given to larger/bulk orders, which benefits wealthier countries for obvious reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,452 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Meredith Grey said: After America is vaccinated, I would hope Joe Biden helped other countries get their vaccines done and over with. It will help us and the entire world and would Probably do a lot to help our foreign relations after trump. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening. How so? I've been a bit turned off the news lately, but I remember seeing that Biden was going to give some vaccines to Mexico, and yesterday he said that he'll be sending vaccines to India to help them out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,910 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Meredith Grey said: After America is vaccinated, I would hope Joe Biden helped other countries get their vaccines done and over with. It will help us and the entire world and would Probably do a lot to help our foreign relations after trump. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening. He already pleged to help In fact i assume many Countries will once we are done My Country Canada ordered 400M doses despite a population of 38M... thats over 10 doses per person. I doubt were gonna need that many boosters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith Grey 3,220 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, iAstroLeo said: How so? I've been a bit turned off the news lately, but I remember seeing that Biden was going to give some vaccines to Mexico, and yesterday he said that he'll be sending vaccines to India to help them out I didn’t see this on the news but you’re probably right, I haven’t been watching the news recently for the same reason. I’ve just become conditioned to not expect the good from our country anymore lol. I’m glad he’s helping out other countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,910 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, iAstroLeo said: What I'm guessing is that they have much more power to contact Pfizer and pay upfront, while poorer countries maybe don't have that opportunity. And Pfizer obviously wants the money to be guaranteed Yeah perhaps thats it. They see poorer countries as more likely to fail to pay so even if they try to buy it and set aside some money they get last priority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,910 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, bionic said: Wealthier countries have the ‘disposable’ income to invest in the vaccines during development, if it leads to a viable product that’s great, but if not whatever, they have their fingers in 100 pies. Poorer nations don’t have this kind of money to gamble with. likewise, priority will be given to larger/bulk orders, which benefits wealthier countries for obvious reasons It probably has more to do with the diversified pie then. Probably not so much the bulk Cuz poor nations are also the most populated. USA and Japan i think are the only two 1st world nations in the top 10 most populated Countries... so even if a Country like India, Bangladesh, Nigeria cant afford to make contracts with a bunch of companies and risk throwing away so much, they definitely still got bulk even if they only ordered 1 dose for every 5 people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Economy said: It probably has more to do with the diversified pie then. Probably not so much the bulk Cuz poor nations are also the most populated. USA and Japan i think are the only two 1st world nations in the top 10 most populated Countries... so even if a Country like India, Bangladesh, Nigeria cant afford to make contracts with a bunch of companies and risk throwing away so much, they definitely still got bulk even if they only ordered 1 dose for every 5 people Also consider that a lot of money spent on the pandemic responses is borrowed, which favors stronger, more stable economies I hope these countries do a lot to help out poorer countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 8,143 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 we can't blame the rich countries for wanting to vaccinate their whole population, sadly as one above said, money talks, Pfizer ain't a charity yet I'm glad big countries are putting some vaccines for poorer countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 32,001 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 this is the sad truth...in my country there's almost none vaccines and the number of new cases and how many people have died has not calmed down since the pandemic started they're only getting higher...while little children who are of no risk are getting vaccinated in some countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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