BTS announce 2nd english-language single butter coming 5/21

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6 minutes ago, blindinghope said:

Yeah. Just ignore a whole genre. Ignore really good shows and movies. Ignore all of that simply because subtitles and language barrier lol. 

Asian horror is top tier btw

So I'm Asian, I speak Chinese and I don't understand Korean, and I'm not interesting with the whole Korean good shows and movies, what would that made me? There's just have people who weren't care about everything we like, everything we have.

And NO, that's not call "Asian horror", stop it.

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wow! all this arguing has made me want to listen to kpop! 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, likeitrough said:

wow! all this arguing has made me want to listen to kpop! 

 

 

 

I suggest day6 if you like rock music. Or Lucy. Or onewe. Or n.flying. or ftisland. 

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5 minutes ago, blindinghope said:

I suggest day6 if you like rock music. Or Lucy. Or onewe. Or n.flying. or ftisland. 

was a joke maam. the only foreign band I listen to is FEMM. bts can suck cawk  

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Just now, likeitrough said:

was a joke maam. the only foreign band I listen to is FEMM. bts can suck cawk  

Did I mention BTS? They suck. I gave you good band suggestions. But oh well. 

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Why is the article saying that Butter will be the follow-up to their "Billboard #1 smash Dynamite"? Life Goes On also went #1 after it but that wasn't in English, so maybe they're talking in terms of English singles? But anyway, I really wish foreign artists would release whole English albums if they're going to keep doing this. I don't get it, if you can speak English fluently, which I believe BTS can, why not release an album in that language? Spanish and French artists do it, at least once. And Korean artists have done albums in Japanese before as well. What do they have against doing English albums? Or even releasing an English version of their existing albums? I get it, the lyrics will change as not everything can be directly translated but it'll pull in more money, so take it as a great money-making opportunity, if anything. I just think it's wrong to tease your English speaking fans with stuff like this but never fully give them what they want.

13 hours ago, blindinghope said:

I don't understand this mindset. Half the artists in America mumble so much. There's no way you understand that. And lyric videos exist for kpop too. America didn't invent that. It's not only an American thing. Like....I don't get it. I really don't

Artists from every country have trouble with muttering lyrics. We mishear lyrics in our own languages all the time, it's the very nature of music. I don't know why you keep saying "American" artists either as if America is the only country with native English speakers. Your sentence about "America didn't invent that" was not claimed by anyone and has no relevance to your argument either. I listen to music from all different artists through amateur music reviewing and there's always an issue with not being able to hear stuff correctly so I use written lyrics to keep me right when I review albums for the first time. But once I've heard it right the first time, I don't need them again. I only listen to English language music but I will make an exception if it's a big name and their album is in French or Spanish as they're the only other languages I understand to a degree. Recently, I did listen to the recent BTS and Blackpink albums, the first time I'd ever heard albums from the Korean language, purely because they had both become so big. I used fan-made translation videos in order to understand them and while the Blackpink ones were reasonably easy to follow, a lot of the BTS lyrics were very strange and just didn't make sense to my English ears. As a result, I could get behind Blackpink but not BTS. Maybe the translations aren't always the best or maybe the cultural language gap is too big. But I need to understand lyrics to truly enjoy music unless the beat is next level, which it usually isn't. Most people don't like to have to work while they're listening to music, which should be a relaxing experience. They just want to chill and let it wash over them which you can't do if you're busy translating. It's your argument most of us can't understand.

12 hours ago, Decodekid said:

I mean you do you but let me tell you something. Non English speaking countries consume English music as if it was local stuff, literally we end up listening to every hit that is charting on the top ten in the United States. I don’t think that understanding lyrics is something crucial to enjoy music. 

Non-English speaking countries tend to speak some level of English in the first place, though. English is probably the biggest second-language spoken in the world. And if you can understand a language to some degree, you're more likely to consume it and enjoy it but if you can't understand it at all, then, chances are , no. And because English music is so global, you don't have much choice if you don't want to listen to it. Artists who don't speak English also tend to make their albums in English as well which, although it's a concept I can't understand, I guess if they've grown up learning to speak English and are very proficient in it and singing in this language will make them more famous and successful, then I guess I get it. Singing in English is a language that connects more people than something more obscure. I don't buy it that every non-English speaker who listens to English music can't understand a word. Those who don't understand it tend not to listen to it at all.

4 hours ago, Dadru said:

I honestly can't understand people who shut something out for being in a different language. Music is, like people said already on here, universal. I guess you guys should look up some lyrics from k-pop songs translated in English bc they're poetic and complicated af. That's one of the most fun parts for me about listening to k-pop. First you consume the song, vocals and production and then you dive deeper into the lyrics.

Music and audio is my entire life, I'm actually an audio fetishist. And I can tell you that music is not universal. If I can't understand something, particularly if I don't have translated lyrics, I can't get into it, I just can't. The only way I possibly can is if it's a super epic song because then I can get carried away with the dramatics of it to the point where it doesn't matter what the lyrics are. But if it's your average radio song, no. I'm not someone who just lets lyrics wash over me, I have to know what is being sung. I looked at the translations for these k-pop songs and a lot of them don't make a lick of sense when translated into English. They're probably poetic in their native tongue but don't work when translated. Every language is like this - only a native speaker can truly put something down the way it "should" be said but to anyone who doesn't speak the language, it won't ring true for them. Whenever English speakers try to say a foreign phrase using direct translations, it won't sound right to the natives. Listening to K-pop as an English speaker is the same thing in reverse. It just doesn't connect. Which is why I can't understand why they have foreign fans at all, really, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.

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27 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't get it, if you can speak English fluently, which I believe BTS can, why not release an album in that language?

RM is the only member who speaks English fluently. Jungkook, another member, is almost fluent.

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Just now, BUtterfield 8 said:

RM is the only member who speaks English fluently. Jungkook, another member, is almost fluent.

Yoongi too. He just chooses not to. He's a human cat. 

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22 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Music and audio is my entire life, I'm actually an audio fetishist. And I can tell you that music is not universal. If I can't understand something, particularly if I don't have translated lyrics, I can't get into it, I just can't. The only way I possibly can is if it's a super epic song because then I can get carried away with the dramatics of it to the point where it doesn't matter what the lyrics are. But if it's your average radio song, no. I'm not someone who just lets lyrics wash over me, I have to know what is being sung. I looked at the translations for these k-pop songs and a lot of them don't make a lick of sense when translated into English. They're probably poetic in their native tongue but don't work when translated. Every language is like this - only a native speaker can truly put something down the way it "should" be said but to anyone who doesn't speak the language, it won't ring true for them. Whenever English speakers try to say a foreign phrase using direct translations, it won't sound right to the natives. Listening to K-pop as an English speaker is the same thing in reverse. It just doesn't connect. Which is why I can't understand why they have foreign fans at all, really, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.

That’s kinda strange tho, saying no to foreign music like that. Music is more than just the lyrics lmao. You don’t have to fully understand the lyrics to feel the emotion being sung, appreciate the melody, production, flow of a song. So basically you’re saying music should be in English to be universal? I just don’t get the point.

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Inspired by OP's username???

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5 hours ago, Linus Gaga said:

was just thinking the same thing  i miss moonboywow

I thought the same too 

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Anyways can they just... un-announce it 

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As an Asian, I extremely dislike them and their fans.

 

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4 minutes ago, Agunimon said:

Inspired by OP's username???

The way I won 

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1 hour ago, Dadru said:

That’s kinda strange tho, saying no to foreign music like that. Music is more than just the lyrics lmao. You don’t have to fully understand the lyrics to feel the emotion being sung, appreciate the melody, production, flow of a song. So basically you’re saying music should be in English to be universal? I just don’t get the point.

I didn't say no to all foreign music. Just the ones in languages that I'm not remotely familiar with. So, French and Spanish at a push. But the only exceptions I'll make is when the artist is so massive that I have to include them in my album reviews, hence why I listened to BTS and Blackpink's recent releases. And I thought Blackpink was ok, but BTS was just not it. Of course music is more than just lyrics but it's about the full package - instrumentation, vocals and lyrics. If just one of these elements is off, it can throw the whole song off-balance in my mind. I have to immerse myself in and connect with every part of a song, it's part of the joy of loving music. I always thought that people who can listen to songs without paying attention to the lyrics must be very disconnected from music. And it's annoying to have to look up lyrics every time you want to enjoy a song. You can feel the emotion of a song, sure, but how will you know if you're feeling the right emotion? If you don't understand the words, how will you know if you're listening to a love song, an angry song, a sad song? And no, I didn't say music had to be in English to be universal, I just said that there's a big chance most people in the world will understand English to some degree as opposed to a language only spoken by a few million people.