AstraZeneca Vaccines Expiring As People Refuse Them (Canada)

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Well if the AstraZeneca vaccine is safe why is it not approved in the USA

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26 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Determining that a vaccine is not good for you based on non-facts is what's bullsh!t actually, especially when these vaccines are literally being thrown away when they could be helping an entire planet get out of a destructive pandemic. But yeah sure calling out privilege is what's disgusting here.

And by all means do send us your "bad" vaccines, at least I know I'll take one. 

It’s not based on non-facts. They have literally stopped the use of Johnson & Johnson because it’s causing serious blood clots in people. Do your research instead of going off your own idiotic emotions & actually educate yourself. That’s like saying “oh drink spoiled milk because other countries don’t even have milk” & it’s really f***ing dumb. You seriously need to reevaluate your perspective. It’s not mine or anyone else’s fault that we were born in countries that have the government/resources to produce these vaccines. Stop trying to take it out on individual people in this forum is insane. Go resolve your emotions with a therapist.

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1 minute ago, lestyoufall said:

It’s not based on non-facts. They have literally stopped the use of Johnson & Johnson because it’s causing serious blood clots in people. Do your research instead of going off your own idiotic emotions & actually educate yourself. That’s like saying “oh drink spoiled milk because other countries don’t even have milk” & it’s really f***ing dumb. You seriously need to reevaluate your perspective. It’s not mine or anyone else’s fault that we were born in countries that have the government/resources to produce these vaccines. Stop trying to take it out on individual people in this forum is insane. Go resolve your emotions with a therapist.

ok

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29 minutes ago, BUtterfield 8 said:

Well if the AstraZeneca vaccine is safe why is it not approved in the USA

Because the US didnt prioritize that one in the process innitially... Just like Canada took longer to approve J&J than the US... it also doesnt mean J&J wasnt safe

 

What the US approves or doesnt approve first isnt an automatic benchmark for the world. The US isnt the only Country with knowledgeable doctors and scientists

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Just now, alsemanche said:

ok

Oh look, a whole thread just popped up about J&J. Go educate yourself there, thanks.

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1 minute ago, lestyoufall said:

Oh look, a whole thread just popped up about J&J. Go educate yourself there, thanks.

I hate it when ppl use this term on stuff that is opinion based... i could literally throw this back on u with the same statement

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

I hate it when ppl use this term on stuff that is opinion based... i could literally throw this back on u with the same statement

It’s not opinion based. Literally google is right there, open a tab & look it up??? It’s seriously that easy? J&J has been paused because of the blood clot issue? That isn’t an opinion, that’s reality. So I am literally throwing it back at you cause you need to educate yourself instead of going off your own opinion like the other user. 

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Give it to me, I'll take a dose. 

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3 minutes ago, Economy said:

I hate it when ppl use this term on stuff that is opinion based... i could literally throw this back on u with the same statement

Also, my opinion is that you SHOULD get vaccinated. I’ve been vaccinated but with a vaccine that hasn’t been causing issues. Yes people should get vaccinated but not with one that’s causing issues & even being pulled off the shelf? That’s ridiculous.

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4 minutes ago, lestyoufall said:

It’s not opinion based. Literally google is right there, open a tab & look it up??? It’s seriously that easy? J&J has been paused because of the blood clot issue? That isn’t an opinion, that’s reality. So I am literally throwing it back at you cause you need to educate yourself instead of going off your own opinion like the other user.

Obviously those arent opinions... but the COMCLUSION of whether or not the vaccine is safe is an opinion and thats the issue at hand here we were arguing about u doofus

 

There are FACTS to also support that it is safe. I can also tell u to search up HOW RARE these side effects are vs HOW COMMON effects from covid are 

 

So theres FACTS to support the opposite of what ur saying just the same

 

So no... i DID educate myself. Im aware of all the stats and developments

 

Edit: and the fact that its been temporarily pulled proves absolutely nothing. Out of an abundance of caution they are suppostu when even the smallest thing needs to be investigated. But so far none of the data thats come out suggests the vaccine is unsafe for general use

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55 minutes ago, Economy said:

Even America with their private healthcare system has huge tax payer dollars. Theres huge subsities, there medicaid many qualify for, theres covid specific medical costs etc

 

So even in America theres medical bills related to Covid19 funded by tax payers that that ppl who refuse vaccines are not helping with

Uh, no. This is America, everyone pulls themselves up by the boot straps. If you want to be treated for covid, you man up and put another mortgage on your house like any other adult thank you.

Xoxo, someone who doesn't wear masks because freedom probably.

...I'm sorry, I'm just being a sh*t today  i know you're right

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6 minutes ago, lestyoufall said:

It’s not opinion based. Literally google is right there, open a tab & look it up??? It’s seriously that easy? J&J has been paused because of the blood clot issue? That isn’t an opinion, that’s reality. So I am literally throwing it back at you cause you need to educate yourself instead of going off your own opinion like the other user. 

Actually, coronavirus is what causes blood clots, it's why people can't  breathe on their own if they're infected. The virus targets the lungs creating clots making it impossible to breathe thus people have to be ventilated. The vaccines contain a small amount of virus so it's not surprising people would develop symptoms of the virus. Most people are not developing side effects and those who do recover in a couple days. The side effects are common among a spectrum of vaccines for many diseases.

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12 minutes ago, Economy said:

What the US approves or doesnt approve first isnt an automatic benchmark for the world. The US isnt the only Country with knowledgeable doctors and scientists

But  we're the beacon of freedom and hope and strength that the world looks to and says "damn I wish I was there"

...again, I'm being a sh*t  buy me for $30

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

Obviously those arent opinions... but the COMCLUSION of whether or not the vaccine is safe is an opinion and thats the issue at hand here we were arguing about u doofus

 

There are FACTS to also support that it is safe. I can also tell u to search up HOW RARE these side effects are vs HOW COMMON effects from covid are 

 

So theres FACTS to support the opposite of what ur saying just the same

 

So no... i DID educate myself. Im aware of all the stats and developments

 

Edit: and the fact that its been temporarily pulled proves absolutely nothing. Out of an abundance of caution they are suppostu when even the smallest thing needs to be investigated. But so far none of the data thats come out suggests the vaccine is unsafe for general use

It’s been pulled because it’s causing blood clots. Wtf do you mean that proves nothing? Are you dense? I’m also not talking about vaccines in GENERAL I am talking about the specific ones mentioned. I already got vaccinated with Moderna & I think that & Pfizer are both safe. You seriously need to take a step back & read through what I’ve said again cause it’s like I’m talking to a brick wall. J&ah is causing medical issues, that IS NOT AN OPINION that is a FACT it is a SCIENTIFIC FACT. Them being pulled from the shelves only goes further to PROVE that their vaccine is UNSAFE because of the MEDICAL ISSUES it’s causing.

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1 minute ago, PartySick said:

But  we're the beacon of freedom and hope and strength that the world looks to and says "damn I wish I was there"

...again, I'm being a sh*t  buy me for $30

 

3 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Uh, no. This is America, everyone pulls themselves up by the boot straps. If you want to be treated for covid, you man up and put another mortgage on your house like any other adult thank you.

Xoxo, someone who doesn't wear masks because freedom probably.

...I'm sorry, I'm just being a sh*t today  i know you're right

What are u on today?

 

Also i thought u were from the UK