AstraZeneca Vaccines Expiring As People Refuse Them (Canada)

[alsemanche 97,799]

6 minutes ago, Suuus said:

Bloodcloths can be deadly how more evidence do you need

did you even read what i wrote or? 

[gothicdream 39,657]

On 4/19/2021 at 12:18 AM, XxBones said:

It’s unfortunate that the information regarding the vaccines has been a mess. I understand the want to be able to be safe etc. but there is just so much misinformation out there right now.

People are wanting vaccines with the highest efficacy rates because they feel they will be more effective etc but fail to realize that the testing phases of these vaccines were done during different times in the pandemic. Pfizer and Moderna doing their tests during the lowest and Johnson Johnson during a higher rate of infection. You can’t really compare those numbers because what if Pfizer did tests during a different time in the pandemic it might have similar efficacy as Johnson. More people could have been infected which means lower efficacy. I think the most important thing you can compare is that they are 100% effective against hospitalizations and serious effects from the virus. 

This! There's an interesting Vox video I watched recently about it:

 

[Suuus 5,632]

3 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

did you even read what i wrote or? 

Yes i did 

[Economy 52,851]

32 minutes ago, Healed My Heart said:

This! There's an interesting Vox video I watched recently about it:

 

I saw that video also

[Economy 52,851]

41 minutes ago, Suuus said:

Bloodcloths can be deadly how more evidence do you need

No one said otherwise. Ur arguing against something no one is disputing u on

[MonsterofFame 1,797]

For all those arguing against people refusing: You have no right to tell others that they need to accept a gamble on their life or health with an unapproved vaccine.

I got the Pfizer shot and ever since the 2nd dose I have been experiencing weird and random symptoms all over my body. I had to see a doctor and they couldn't even give me definite answers on what's going on because no one knows. Many of them are related to circulatory issues. And guess what we're finding out about all these vaccines? Blood clot risks! Coincidence? I think not.

I can only hope my symptoms will stop or slowly disappear as time goes on. It has been over 2 weeks since my 2nd dose.

I don't regret my decision to get it, but I learned first hand that you can't force others to take a risk on the health and life because YOU say so. And if you do, then  

[MonsterofFame 1,797]

On 4/19/2021 at 3:01 PM, Rj Barker said:

But the Pfizer and moderna also has had clotting. Just no one talking about it. So oooo?

A study by Oxford University found the number of people who receive blood clots after getting vaccinated with a coronavirus vaccine are about the same for those who get Pfizer PFE and Moderna MRNA vaccines as they are for the AstraZeneca AZN vaccine that was produced with the university's help. According to the study, 4 in 1 million people experience cerebral venous thrombosis after getting the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, versus 5 in 1 million people for the AstraZeneca vaccine. The risk of getting CVT is much higher for those who get COVID-19 -- 39 in a million patients -- than it is for those who get vaccinated. AstraZeneca's vaccine use has been halted or limited in many countries on blood clot concerns.

Thank you!

I am experiencing symptoms related to this right now, see my last post.

[Economy 52,851]

6 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said:

For all those arguing against people refusing: You have no right to tell others that they need to accept a gamble on their life or health with an unapproved vaccine.

I got the Pfizer shot and ever since the 2nd dose I have been experiencing weird and random symptoms all over my body. I had to see a doctor and they couldn't even give me definite answers on what's going on because no one knows. Many of them are related to circulatory issues. And guess what we're finding out about all these vaccines? Blood clot risks! Coincidence? I think not.

I can only hope my symptoms will stop or slowly disappear as time goes on. It has been over 2 weeks since my 2nd dose.

I don't regret my decision to get it, but I learned first hand that you can't force others to take a risk on the health and life because YOU say so. And if you do, then  

Obviously this a debate for where it is approved. If u live somewhere it isnt approved yet then it doesnt even matter cuz u cant have it

[MonsterofFame 1,797]

9 minutes ago, Economy said:

Obviously this a debate for where it is approved. If u live somewhere it isnt approved yet then it doesnt even matter cuz u cant have it

Location doesn't matter. This is a debate about ethics.

[Economy 52,851]

8 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said:

Location doesn't matter. This is a debate about ethics.

U said unapproved

[chromatigaga 1,339]

I’m 28 and had AZ, it’s all scaremongering 

[Bio 23,538]

Meanwhile I don't know if I'm gonna be vaccinated this year because my country is poor and my president is a **** head.

[Suuus 5,632]

1 hour ago, Economy said:

U said unapproved

This user also said they got the pfizer vaccine so whats your point

[Economy 52,851]

Just now, Suuus said:

This user also said they got the pfizer vaccine so whats your point

He was talking about AZ being unapproved. Im saying the discussion is obviously about taking where it is approved

 

Im not sure why he brought up its approval status in US

[Suuus 5,632]

4 minutes ago, Economy said:

He was talking about AZ being unapproved. Im saying the discussion is obviously about taking where it is approved

 

Im not sure why he brought up its approval status in US

I would focus more on the that this user got all kinds of wierd symptoms after recieving the pfizer vaccine i think that this user is just trying to say that we shouldnt judge people for not getting vaccinated and also sharing what happend after they got the pfizer vaccine