RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 They should have a sign up program for expiring vaccines, let people sign a waver if they are under 55 and want to take the risk. Better than them going to waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikaado 4,302 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'd gladly take those. Damn boomers!! BTW my mother took Astrazenaca and she had absolutely ZERO reactions to it, the place took the vaccine was a little red and that's all. I am authistic, so don't be offended if I make a mess sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorja 1,149 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 spoiled 1st world people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I had the vaccine, but I think people have every right to decide what they want injected into their bodies. I don't blame people being skeptical either. Many different medications, products, etc. that were once thought to be completely safe have had to be recalled over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Smh I think the EU members who spent the last few months rubbishing the AZ vaccine have a lot to answer for, there is blood on their hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide555 587 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Miss Dolly said: I’m just fearing for my life with these vaccines. This ain't it chief. You're MUCH more likely to have a blood clot from taking birth control pills than you are from taking a vaccine from Moderna or AstraZeneca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuffy 1,049 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Let's break down this 'my body, my choice' argument: Firstly, this isn't the same as the abortion debate. Yes, you have the right to do what you want with your body. But the context isn't about having a baby, sex reassignment or even something cosmetic like piercings. It's happening because there is a global pandemic. 'Your choice' affects others. Secondly, we all have a social responsibility to care for others. Mask wearing is an example of that, but it's not foolproof and many people don't do it properly. By refusing a vaccine or waiting to get a 'better' one, you're increasingly the risk of others getting the disease and dying, including many who would want the vaccine you're refusing but genuinely can't have it. You are prolonging the pandemic and letting it worsen. Thirdly, remember that other vaccines aren't risk-free. Did you know that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines both have higher rates of anaphylaxis than J&J and AZ? This allergic reaction can kill and cause long-term damage, and the causes surrounding it are still not fully known. BUT the risk is still insanely low, just like the blood clots. The worst part is people complaining about the risk of side effects when they're wandering about aimlessly in pandemic that has a higher risk of putting themselves and the vulnerable in danger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, Peroxide555 said: This ain't it chief. You're MUCH more likely to have a blood clot from taking birth control pills than you are from taking a vaccine from Moderna or AstraZeneca. I don’t plan on taking birth control pills anytime soon. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,062 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Miss Dolly said: I don’t plan on taking birth control pills anytime soon. So you plan on getting in a car anytime soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: So you plan on getting in a car anytime soon? I do. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 hours ago, RahrahWitch said: They should have a sign up program for expiring vaccines, let people sign a waver if they are under 55 and want to take the risk. Better than them going to waste. Well they actually shortly after i made this thread they lowered the age for the astrazeneca vaccine to 40 in Ontario... So for now theres more ppl that can access them and they wont go to waste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,062 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Miss Dolly said: I do. But you’re more likely to die in a car accident at any given moment than dying from having a bad reaction to a vaccine I thought you didn’t wanna risk it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicemuncher 1,740 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I am absolutely pro-Vaccine, however, I think people should have the right to choose. First world problems? Perhaps but not always. I live in an Arab country, I registered to get the jab as soon as they announced they would begin the rollout. With the latest news, I’ve been calling the hotline to try and explain my medical history for the past 2 months but it’s AstraZeneca or the highway. I am not a national of the country and it seems Pfizer is reserved for only that segment (racism 101), and I’m not refusing AZ “just because”. I had a brain aneurysm that was operated on 10 years ago and ended up with a coil in my brain, so I’m prone to blood clots. They just won’t listen. I haven’t been out in public (except solo car rides) since March 17th last year. I haven’t seen any friends, family, haven’t been to a restaurant, cafe, supermarket, mall, nothing. I rely strictly on deliveries and I’ve just about had it. I cannot voluntarily and willingly go take a shot that may or may not cause me severe side effects and then drop dead at the age of 34. In general, I think there should be better, more transparent communication between governments and the people everywhere. Giving short, simple statements (or in cases, orders) doesn’t put people at ease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, spicemuncher said: I am absolutely pro-Vaccine, however, I think people should have the right to choose. First world problems? Perhaps but not always. I live in an Arab country, I registered to get the jab as soon as they announced they would begin the rollout. With the latest news, I’ve been calling the hotline to try and explain my medical history for the past 2 months but it’s AstraZeneca or the highway. I am not a national of the country and it seems Pfizer is reserved for only that segment (racism 101), and I’m not refusing AZ “just because”. I had a brain aneurysm that was operated on 10 years ago and ended up with a coil in my brain, so I’m prone to blood clots. They just won’t listen. I haven’t been out in public (except solo car rides) since March 17th last year. I haven’t seen any friends, family, haven’t been to a restaurant, cafe, supermarket, mall, nothing. I rely strictly on deliveries and I’ve just about had it. I cannot voluntarily and willingly go take a shot that may or may not cause me severe side effects and then drop dead at the age of 34. In general, I think there should be better, more transparent communication between governments and the people everywhere. Giving short, simple statements (or in cases, orders) doesn’t put people at ease. Thats different tho... ur more prone to clots so i get ur hesitation... just like young pregnante women have been shown to disproportionately be more prone to this astrazeneca clot But the odds are exeptionally low even among the general population... for those over 55 its virtually unheard of... so unless ur in a higher risk than most it doesnt make sense to me to refuse this vaccine over others that have their own risks anyway Like yeah ppl technically have the right to refuse it... but i feel like those personal decisions are being fueled by either misinformation or a lack of balanved perspective... most ppl refusing it are not in some higher risk group like you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesdvl 787 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Send some of them to mexico were really behind on the vaccination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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