James Charles accused of messaging another minor for the 4th time

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11 minutes ago, Aphasic Top said:

This quote from you is very disqualifying. Imagine telling an African American person or an Asian person that their experiences on racism, does not give them the right to argue about something they have personally lived. 

Very interesting the way you disqualify the personal experiences of people who have dealt in real life with issues such grooming, molestation, racism, etc. 

It speaks volumes about you. 

Did I ever told you that you can't argue about something? You can, but you having your own experience doesn't mean you'll be always right, chill out.

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2 hours ago, Aphasic Top said:

1st the boy is well aware the he is a minor and James Charles is not

2nd the boy kept conversating with him knowing the two factors posted above

3rd James Charles blocks him and the boy knowing that he is a minor posts proof of these conversations on an app rather than the authorities. 

By the way I am lawyer (though I don´t practice it). All of the things posted above would be considered in a legal case against James Charles and a judge would have to determine whether those conversations constitute a crime or not, but intentions and motivations are things that judges take in count. This young boy is clearly aware of the consenquences his post would have. 

James Charles SHOULD STOP with these pattern and both parties (the boy and James Charles in this case in specific) are still legally bound to prove their intentions and movitations if any of these cases actually go to court. 

Precisely because I know what is like to be abused and molested, I know that shame does not allow us to freely express our situations to many (or anyone at all)  let alone share them on a popular app. This boy knows what he is doing and if anything I´ll be happy if James Charles is held accountable by the law for his actions but following the due process of law. 

 

4 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You'd assume someone flaunting their law degree would know something about actual sex crime law.

I think your heart is in the right place, but you keep replying to people claiming it's relevant from a legal perspective if James knew they were underage. That's truly really not the case at all. The “mistake of age” defense in statutory cases is almost always thrown out.   

I stand by what I have wrote in my comments. I do not know enough, and neither does anyone on here, to verify the claims on either side of this particular case. 

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2 minutes ago, lestyoufall said:

Unless that’s the law degree they chose then no you wouldn’t expect a lawyer to know about all the areas of our legal system. He could be a tax lawyer for all you know, or criminal, or entertainment. There’s so many categories, maybe use google before posting next time gurl.

I'm obviously aware that there are different kinds of legal fields lmao what....

How is that relevant? I'm not the one that was providing a bogus legal defense of James Charles 

 

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2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Maybe if this happened once, fine. I'd chalk it up to well we don't know all the facts. 2 times get's dicey. But we're on ROUND MOTHER F*CKING 6 NOW HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH THE SAME STORY?!

If you don't believe survivors that's fine just say so! I do, and I stand by everyone who has come forward in the post-Me Too world we live in. You don't. We're different. Bye! 

6 times is because you are saying the SAME THING and i am replying with the SAME THING and you think what you're saying over and over again is proving what i'm saying wrong? Jfc 

just because someone says something does not make it true and a viral tik tok video of someone saying it has just as much credibility as James does

lovely chat 

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29 minutes ago, kukuryku666 said:

Sorry but you being molested doesn't mean your comments are always right

The same way you can be gay and homophobic, you can be a survivor (if you want to call yourself that) with some problematic opinions

And I'm not even talking about this situation, but in general. "I'm that" or "I was too" is not an argument.

 

5 minutes ago, kukuryku666 said:

Did I ever tell you you can't argue about something? You can, but you having your own experience doesn't mean you'll be always right, chill out.

How should that sentence  be interpreted?

You even went as far as to say "but in general" which is to the effect of other matters such racism, misogyny, xenophobia, victims of transphobia and homophobia, etc. 

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1 minute ago, Aphasic Top said:

 

I stand by what I have wrote in my comments. I do not know enough, and neither does anyone on here, to verify the claims on either side of this particular case. 

Y'all truly love to pretend we didn't just live through the Me Too era. Like you guys obviously learned literally nothing about the psychological toll and cost for survivors to come forward. People don't just make this sh*t up for clout — that's a disgusting and outdated way to think.

Folks..... BELIEVE SURVIVORS. 

Lastly, besides your incorrect assumptions on the "mistake of age" legal defense, I just want to point out again that James is not that one who blocked the first boy who came forward last month. Your comment that you "stand by" spreads that lie, just like James' sole Twitter statement on this issue. 

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3 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

I'm obviously aware that there are different kinds of legal fields lmao what....

How is that relevant? I'm not the one that was providing a bogus legal defense of James Charles 

 

It’s relevant because you literally just said “I’d expect a lawyer to know the laws in this case” like??? Do you have dementia? Did you not read what I was replying to? What’s up sis, why are you so forgetful once put in your place?

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2 minutes ago, PlasticWeave said:

6 times is because you are saying the SAME THING and i am replying with the SAME THING and you think what you're saying over and over again is proving what i'm saying wrong? Jfc 

just because someone says something does not make it true and a viral tik tok video of someone saying it has just as much credibility as James does

lovely chat 

What? The compression skills left the chat. I'm saying this is AT LEAST the 6th person to come forward with this kind of accusation on James (the OP's thread title is wrong). 

Yes, someone saying something doesn't make it true, but you clearly learned nothing from the Me Too movement or Gaga herself who she spoke time and time again about sexual assault and abuse.

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22 minutes ago, Aphasic Top said:

 

How should that sentence should be interpreted?

You even went as far as to say "but in general" which is to the effect of other matters such racism, misogyny, xenophobia, victims of transphobia and homophobia, etc. 

Black person can say something other black people wouldn't agree on

Gay person can say something other LGBT people wouldn't agree on

So you being a victim yourself doesn't make your comments automatically right

For you not believing those boys is not problematic, for others it is

So you being molested in not an argument, because other people with similar experiences can disagree with you completely

That's all I said to you

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2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Y'all truly love to pretend we didn't just live through the Me Too era. Like you guys obviously learned literally nothing about the psychological toll and cost for survivors to come forward. People don't just make this sh*t up for clout — that's a disgusting and outdated way to think.

Folks..... BELIEVE SURVIVORS. 

Lastly, besides your incorrect assumptions on the "mistake of age" legal defense, I just want to point out again that James is not that one who blocked the first boy who came forward last month. Your comment that you "stand by" spreads that lie, just like James' sole Twitter statement on this issue. 

 

I do not know enough, and neither does anyone on here, to verify the claims on either side of this particular case.

But I´ll say this about a few of the comments I have read from you on this thread: You make really inflamatory comments and even went as far as to equate grooming and rape. That kind of comments should have no place on this site without actual evidence or an actual statement by the competent law department corroborating those claims. 

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3 minutes ago, lestyoufall said:

It’s relevant because you literally just said “I’d expect a lawyer to know the laws in this case” like??? Do you have dementia? Did you not read what I was replying to? What’s up sis, why are you so forgetful once put in your place?

I said, "you'd assume someone flaunting their law degree would know something about actual sex crime law."

And I said that because they kept pushing their law degree into the conversation to establish a kind of authority on the matter at hand which is sex crime....

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Just now, MJHolland said:

Y'all truly love to pretend we didn't just live through the Me Too era. Like you guys obviously learned literally nothing about the psychological toll and cost for survivors to come forward. People don't just make this sh*t up for clout — that's a disgusting and outdated way to think.

Folks..... BELIEVE SURVIVORS. 

Lastly, besides your incorrect assumptions on the "mistake of age" legal defense, I just want to point out again that James is not that one who blocked the first boy who came forward last month. Your comment that you "stand by" spreads that lie, just like James' sole Twitter statement on this issue. 

I AM A SURVIVOR & I BELIEVE SURVIVORS. These people are not survivors of rape or sexual assault, do you understand the difference between what’s happening here & actually surviving something like that? Clearly you don’t since you’re equating messaging someone & lying about your age to literally being assaulted. It’s disgusting, terribly inaccurate & completely harmful to actual survivors. You really need to stop commenting because you’ve taken things to such a harmful degree just to prove that your OPINION is correct. No, we do not do that. How dare you compare surviving something so traumatic as rape/assault to messaging someone. Horrible.

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Just now, Aphasic Top said:

I do not know enough, and neither does anyone on here, to verify the claims on either side of this particular case.

But I´ll say this about a few of the comments I have read from you on this thread: You make really inflamatory comments and even went as far as to equate grooming and rape. That kind of comments should have no place on this site without actual evidence or an actual statement by the competent law department corroborating those claims. 

Grooming is the literal act of psychologically preparing a minor for rape. Google is free. 

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1 minute ago, kukuryku666 said:

Black person can say something other black people wouldn't agree on

Gay person can say something other LGBT people wouldn't agree on

So you being a victim yourself doesn't make your comments automatically right

For you not believing those boys is not problematic, for others it is

That's all I said to you

I suggest you being more careful with your wording. You have lovely day. 

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Just now, lestyoufall said:

I AM A SURVIVOR & I BELIEVE SURVIVORS. These people are not survivors of rape or sexual assault, do you understand the difference between what’s happening here & actually surviving something like that? Clearly you don’t since you’re equating messaging someone & lying about your age to literally being assaulted. It’s disgusting, terribly inaccurate & completely harmful to actual survivors. You really need to stop commenting because you’ve taken things to such a harmful degree just to prove that your OPINION is correct. No, we do not do that. How dare you compare surviving something so traumatic as rape/assault to messaging someone. Horrible.

You literally have no proof any of these boys lied about their age LMAO WHAT HAPPENED TO "proof"