James Charles accused of messaging another minor for the 4th time

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44 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

What's funny to me is that a 15 yo is called a minor and a 22 yo is considered an adult with predatory intentions. We're forgetting that while he's certainty not a minor he's still pretty damn young! Also, they both were consensual so I really don't see anything that could say that James forced this kid.

There are plenty of relationships with an age gap like that in every part of the world... i really don't see anyone making a fuss about it.

 

 

What the actual **** is wrong with you 

[Regina George 59,387]

9 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

edit: it was more so showing proof that James lied, and it's a lie you've been spreading in this thread yourself.

JAMES did not block this kid, the kid blocked HIM. 

July 2020 —  watch this and lmk if your opinion changes at all. 

Look... I won't be commenting on this because I see nothing that can make me believe this OR make me deny this. From what I actually SAW from those screens those boys shared - I see nothing wrong. 

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

UH YES?! The 16 year old who came forward last month (the first one who filed a police report) shows the screenshots of all the nudes James sent him. Like he sent fully nude pics to a 16 year old that is a fact. 

How can you know for sure that boy didn't lie to him about his age? 

[Zombiecat 16,572]

Just now, MJHolland said:

UH YES?! The 16 year old who came forward last month (the first one who filed a police report) shows the screenshots of all the nudes James sent him. Like he sent fully nude pics to a 16 year old that is a fact. 

that's not a sexual relationship and does not prove that he knew the guy was 16, sorry

i don't even mean to sound victim blaming at all but believing everything someone says and automatically blaming James is literally no different

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 minute ago, Regina George said:

Look... I won't be commenting on this because I see nothing that can make me believe this OR make me deny this. From what I actually SAW from those screens those boys shared - I see nothing wrong. 

How can you know for sure that boy didn't lie to him about his age? 

I believe victims. You do not. This is clearly an obvious pattern that has been happening long before the first accuser came forward. 

If you don't want to comment on it further, that's fine. But you've already done a huge disservice to every single person that has been assaulted, groomed, or otherwise abused. Including Gaga. Believe survivors. 

And when it comes down to predatory minor/major relationships, it doesn't matter if someone lied in the eyes of the law. James was caught initiating a sexual relationship with a famous 14 YEAR OLD on snapchat. No way does that kid look 18. The burden is always on the MAJOR to ensure they're not having a sexual relationship with a minor. That is literally the law. 

[Lion Heart 15,041]

I actually defended James before, but now this is intentional..

[MJHolland 12,725]

4 minutes ago, PlasticWeave said:

that's not a sexual relationship and does not prove that he knew the guy was 16, sorry

i don't even mean to sound victim blaming at all but believing everything someone says and automatically blaming James is literally no different

WHAT?! Sending nudes to someone and soliciting child p0rn IS a sexual relationship?!?! 

Sexual relationship doesn't mean they've had sex. It means there relationship is predicated on a sexual basis. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, Lion Heart said:

I actually defended James before, but now this is intentional..

it was intentional before too but ty for coming around! 

[Regina George 59,387]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

I believe victims. You do not. This is clearly an obvious pattern that has been happening long before the first accuser came forward. 

If you don't want to comment on it further, that's fine. But you've already done a huge disservice to every single person that has been assaulted, groomed, or otherwise abused. Including Gaga. Believe survivors. 

And when it comes down to predatory minor/major relationships, it doesn't matter if someone lied in the eyes of the law. James was caught initiating a sexual relationship with a famous 14 YEAR OLD on snapchat. No way does that kid look 18. The burden is always on the MAJOR to ensure they're not having a sexual relationship with a minor. That is literally the law. 

The overreaction.  And the ignorance you're sharing rn is just beyond me. 

"it doesn't matter if someone lied in the eyes of the law"

WTF? Yes it does! If I lie to you about being legal and you fall for it then I AM TO BLAME. I lied. I made you do this. 

Also James doesn't look 21/22 at all. So what's the point of that? 

Please just stop quoting me if you're going to accuse me of such nonsense. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

16 minutes ago, PlasticWeave said:

'he did not share his age with James Charles by saying his age is publicly available on Famous Birthdays, since Ethan has 350k followers on TikTok. '

 

lmfao when i got to this part i just rolled my eyes because that just says everything imo  

Also, the way you can't even read the full sentence is 

He's "responding to the SPECULATION he did not share his age with James Charles..."  

Y'all need to watch this video before clicking "submit reply" 

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2 hours ago, Aphasic Top said:

 

I was sexually abused by a family friend who was in 60s throughout ages 7 to 9 years old and eventually sexually molested at 21 by a big celebrity.  You don´t need to tell me what keeps or does not keep people from revealing their traumas. 

Sorry but you being molested doesn't mean your comments are always right

The same way you can be gay and homophobic, you can be a survivor (if you want to call yourself that) with some problematic opinions

And I'm not even talking about this situation, but in general. "I'm that" or "I was too" is not an argument.

[Zombiecat 16,572]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

Also, the way you can't even read the full sentence is 

He's "responding to the SPECULATION he did not share his age with James Charles..."  

Y'all need to watch this video before clicking "submit reply" 

I did read the full thing.. my response remains the same

 

I watched the video.. my response remains the same

[StarstruckIllusion 52,473]

36 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

But the fact that all these cases with 14-16 year old boys happened around the same time (Nov 2020) BEFORE the first boy came public.... it just goes to show you that James is not the victim of a coordinated campaign of young teenage boys to get him to ask for child p0rn! 

Hmm that’s weird... but again I’m not comfortable calling him a pdf file if they lied about their age to him. I understand the default urge to take people at their word but he’s a celeb so it’s different. t b h I have no strong opinions bc idk all the details but for a 21yo famous guy who’s been relevant for like 3 years then, he was pretty damn wreckless. I mean the kid literally posted his age on his TikTok...

but it’s March 2021 and he’s posted a statement so now we all have to sit, wait and see if he lives up to his words 

I feel like the worse dynamic is the power dynamic of a fan vs. a famous influencer. Fans will always feel special and think they’re the one James will fall in love with. He needs to stick to getting to know people irl, and work to demystify himself if he’s actually trying to turn a (legal) fan to a man

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, Regina George said:

The overreaction.  And the ignorance you're sharing rn is just beyond me. 

"it doesn't matter if someone lied in the eyes of the law"

WTF? Yes it does! If I lie to you about being legal and you fall for it then I AM TO BLAME. I lied. I made you do this. 

Also James doesn't look 21/22 at all. So what's the point of that? 

Please just stop quoting me if you're going to accuse me of such nonsense. 

You're literally sitting here NOT BELIEVING people that are coming forward. Sis I'm not accusing you of anything YOU'RE THE ONE NOT BELIEVING VICTIMS?!?!? 

Also don't get mad at me for stating the fact — THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAW LOOK IT UP:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/can-i-be-convicted-statutory-rape-if-my-partner-told-

[MJHolland 12,725]

2 minutes ago, PlasticWeave said:

I did read the full thing.. my response remains the same

 

I watched the video.. my response remains the same

So you really watched that video and "laughed my a$$ off"? What is wrong with you... 

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4 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You're literally sitting here NOT BELIEVING people that are coming forward. Sis I'm not accusing you of anything YOU'RE THE ONE NOT BELIEVING VICTIMS?!?!? 

Also don't get mad at me for stating the fact — THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAW LOOK IT UP:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/can-i-be-convicted-statutory-rape-if-my-partner-told-

Not you thinking that you are judge judy or something.

If james did it yess he should be charged.

If he didnt he shouldnt. 

Not guilty until proven guilty.

Every story has two sides.

James could be framed like johnny depp. We dont know. So we dont have to cancel him.