Buckingham Palace responds to Harry and Meghan

[Jill 31,812]

5 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

I gave this precision cause you said "France is doing the same today" to someone discussing colonies merely renamed "territories" which sounded a bit like if these places were colonized now.

These places are parts of France which see/feel themselves this way since a very long time now therefore aren't renamed colonies anymore.

Now yeah of course they *historically* are the product of it even if things changed in the meantime.

Well...they may feel that way but that doesn't take away the fact they were colonized, and that if it wasn't for France, their culture and traditions would be very different.

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On 3/9/2021 at 9:05 PM, Debithius said:

What even is this comment. Europeans were not the only colonizers 🙃 But also why judge people based on their ancestors? Let it go and let them deal with current issues.

lmao... we have current issues bc of their ancestors.

[Guillaume Hamon 7,048]

On 3/11/2021 at 6:10 PM, Jill said:

Well...they may feel that way but that doesn't take away the fact they were colonized, and that if it wasn't for France, their culture and traditions would be very different.

Nobody said the opposite. Just that being formerly colonized is not the same as being colonized atm as your phrasing implied.

[Jill 31,812]

1 hour ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

Nobody said the opposite. Just that being formerly colonized is not the same as being colonized atm as your phrasing implied.

It still is colonialism being practiced at the present time. The fact they were 'reaconditioned' to see themselves as 'legit' French citizens doesn't take away that fact.

[Sister 9,907]

On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2021 at 2:40 PM, ShayCristoforo said:

It's actually a genius response. It responds directly and confidently to the issues, while taking no responsibility or recourse. 
Rhetoric 101 lmao. 

Exactly. It was only put into PR because they were forced to acknowledge that the world was on pins and needles, waiting for the other shoe to drop, in their response. It's exactly nothing, put to message. Sad. It reads complete uninvolved.

[Guillaume Hamon 7,048]

6 hours ago, Jill said:

It still is colonialism being practiced at the present time. The fact they were 'reaconditioned' to see themselves as 'legit' French citizens doesn't take away that fact.

Well I guess we agree to disagree cause to me once each side agree to be together that's not colonialism in practice anymore. Rather a former one that became an union.

Reaconditioned? You say it as if they had been brainwashed. Many former colonies became independent, you couldn't mentally convince one to stay for very long if they didn't want it, even if you tried, see every colonial empire in History. All the brainwashing in the World wasn't able to keep them remotely close to what they were.

And saying they're "legit" citizens with brackets seem a bit dismissive as well since that's how they see themselves in France just like others see them here too.

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56 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

Well I guess we agree to disagree cause to me once each side agree to be together that's not colonialism in practice anymore. Rather a former one that became an union.

Reaconditioned? You say it as if they had been brainwashed. Many former colonies became independent, you couldn't mentally convince one to stay for very long if they didn't want it, even if you tried, see every colonial empire in History. All the brainwashing in the World wasn't able to keep them remotely close to what they were.

And saying they're "legit" citizens with brackets seem a bit dismissive as well since that's how they see themselves in France just like others see them here too.

Colonialism nowadays is used more to refer to the political and economical advantages that rich countries take from poor ones, rather than in its past literal sense. With practices/comercial deals/etc that are one sided and beneficial mostly to the powerful and rich nations. So technically is not  colonizing but is still taking advantage, which should not be allowed, because it creates inequality and only perpetuates a system that has proven to not be beneficial for all parts.

 

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22 hours ago, Deme said:

Colonialism nowadays is used more to refer to the political and economical advantages that rich countries take from poor ones, rather than in its past literal sense. With practices/comercial deals/etc that are one sided and beneficial mostly to the powerful and rich nations. So technically is not  colonizing but is still taking advantage, which should not be allowed, because it creates inequality and only perpetuates a system that has proven to not be beneficial for all parts.

 

Hi! I also heard this modern meaning you describe but as you said yourself it's coming from certain countries towards poorer ones while the places we were talking about with Jill aren't different countries, it's all in the same country since a very very long time. Go tell former colonies they're still colonized and they'll feel insulted and eternally reduced to a victim role they left behind.

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