Gaga Was Forced To Make Chromatica

[AJRocketMan 2,684]

That was a long an unnecessary post. Who cares? I enjoyed Chromatica very much.

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She said that in basically all interviews she gave.

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1 hour ago, ApplauseftAdele said:

I feel like if she had creative control, she would definitely create a more experimental record, however with the massive success of ASIB, I feel like her label forced her to create a GP-pandering album with digestible tracks, so they wouldn't be turned off by say, hyper-experimental production from the likes of SOPHIE (RIP Legend). 

I think I heard Gaga or BloodPop said in Gaga Radio that there was another version of LG6 with SOPHIE and DJWS (DJWS even said it was "ARTPOP's little sister"), but when BloodPop heard it, he didn't like it so it made Gaga cry. 

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21 minutes ago, dynamite said:

As someone with ears, no 

Ah yes, the lovely grinding sound in half of the tracks to fill up space is so pleasing to the ear. “Favorite” is not the same thing as “best”. You’re free to feel Born This Way is your favorite album, but the mixing and engineering on that album is a critique many people brought up with it when it came out and still bring up against it in most of the spaces I’m in. It used to be my favorite Gaga album, but now knowing more about the actual science of sound design, I don’t feel that way anymore. 

[CubbyGaga 2,346]

Honestly how dare you make this assumption.  This album means so much to me and how it speaks to my mental health.  Maybe put down your phone next time such a ridiculous thought pops into your head? 

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40 minutes ago, NightOwner said:

She probably was PRESSURED to create an album but she was definitely neither forced or pressure to create Chromatica as a concept both sonically or visually.

I find it almost like an insult to say that a woman as creative and vissionary as she is, with that much power in the industry and almost 13 years in the business, is dressing and singing the way some excutives force her to.

Plus, you just don't create a concept like Chromatica just to sell. Most of it is well explained and makes sense, and a concept as complex as this is denifinetily not made for mass consumption. If selling was the intention, then **** the concept, just some cute bops and ballads will do.

And the music is excellent.

It’s absolutely an insult 

[Decodekid 27,364]

can't believe some of you really have the audacity to call Chromatica bland and "forced". It really shows that you haven't seen the interviews or listened to Gaga radio, or even payed attention to the lyrics and the message. 

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2 hours ago, ApplauseftAdele said:

For example, Rain On Me simply does not sound anything like a song she would normally write, in terms of the flow and structure and melodies of the song. If you told me 7 years ago that Gaga's next pop singles would have lyricless EDM drop choruses I would have screamed. Hell, they even got MAX MARTIN to help write Stupid Love. That's something Gaga would never have done, and I believe she even stated she didn't need him in the past.

This is such a weird take because 7 years ago was ARTPOP which was Gaga singing over EDM beats (a third of which were made for someone else). And you have a problem with Max Martin having a writing credit, but not David Guetta and will.i.am on that same album?

Not to mention that “Rain On Me“ does have a chorus with lyrics (and an extra hook that comes on at the end of the song) and it’s not even EDM, unlike what Gaga was doing... 7 years ago?

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I just wish Gaga didn't use dance breaks as choruses in so many Chromatica songs... 

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1 hour ago, Yandere said:

Guys these are some facts and there are opinions. He’s not offending anyone and SOME of you always give shady and unpleasant answers, like you defend Gaga from her fans themselves.

I know, saying “forced” can be exagerated, but you could also just accept the fact that someone noticed stuff and wants to talk about it. There’s no need in commenting like this even if you disagree.

I was not on this site for a bit... but everytime I comeback I start feeling sad and anxious. People around us are mean already... there’s really no need.

How about you start being nice to the person this site is about? Imagine being an artist, recording one of your best and most-acclaimed albums, filming one of your most experimental videos in 118 degree heat in the middle of a pandemic, and then having to read this:

 

2 hours ago, Yandere said:

It’s what I thought. I see no Gaga in Chromatica, or at least I see no “pushing the boundaries”. I agree on many levels, with different perspectives...and beside this I think Gaga is maybe suffering from depression issues and social anxiety, at least that’s what I understood, and doing an album and do not “care” could be a sign.

And back to the sound and experimenting.. I really cannot understand how such basic instrumentals (not all of course) could be used by Gaga. I mean... but that’s a matter of personal taste.

I don’t know why people bash and laugh at this post. It could really be that Gaga did not felt Chromatica, then the Covid worsened everything.

A fact is that looking at the past she was always into her work, and now she’s not. Even though I love Rain on Me and the video, with 911 too, I miss her, that’s all. And I felt like she made us happy for that moment to never go back on Chromatica.

 

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I think trying to dismiss its authenticity while holding ARTPOP as her peak is ironic since she bought like half the beats for that album  I think she just wanted to try something new sound wise. While I’m not a huge fan of the 90s house beats and dance breaks songs like 911, Plastic Doll, Replay, Babylon don’t sound like they’re dragging down her discography. And the lyrics in this album are some of her greatest. Era wise I think it felt a bit forced, and the fact that she turned off the character multiple times shows how committed she really was to the idea of the album.

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1 hour ago, ApplauseftAdele said:

It makes complete sense to me. For example, Rain On Me simply does not sound anything like a song she would normally write, in terms of the flow and structure and melodies of the song. If you told me 7 years ago that Gaga's next pop singles would have lyricless EDM drop choruses I would have screamed. Hell, they even got MAX MARTIN to help write Stupid Love. That's something Gaga would never have done, and I believe she even stated she didn't need him in the past

everything about this paragraph

just because the chorus isn't sang on the drop doesn't make it not a chorus

rain on me sounds exactly like a song she would write

cant read my cant read my no he can't read my poker face

that boy is a monster ma ma ma monster 

oooh heavy metal lover

baby lets get high john wayne

why are you coming for chromatica's chorus'  it has some of her strongest ever

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Admin said:

This is such a weird take because 7 years ago was ARTPOP which was Gaga singing over EDM beats (a third of which were made for someone else). And you have a problem with Max Martin having a writing credit, but not David Guetta and will.i.am on that same album?

Not to mention that “Rain On Me“ does have a chorus with lyrics (and an extra hook that comes on at the end of the song) and it’s not even EDM, unlike what Gaga was doing... 7 years ago?

literally this! the OP feels like it should be about that album not Chromatica 

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This site is becoming worse than ATRL. The negativity towards Gaga is out on control and I feel like more members are interested in tearing her down than celebrating her and her work.

I find it incredibly depressing that this place I’ve been coming to since it launched has now become the number one source for negative opinions on Gaga. I feel sorry for her, she has one of the cruelest fanbases, point blank.

maybe I need to just accept it for what it is and stop coming here.

[Bolkins 4,101]

There is a running theme with both the album and the residency where people feel like she just handed those projects over and trusted BP and Eli to basically do whatever without as much input. She's been upfront about that too so its not exactly false. Its odd because she's been so staunch to not be like that in the past, but if you think back to like 2018 and the huge to do list it makes sense that she'd have to delegate creatively. 

I hope there was a purpose to needing to do so much in the space of a couple of years, it wasn't exactly necessary when you look back. Obviously grateful that she did it, love Gaga content, but we'd just had ASIB, I think we could've waited 2 years if required. I always bare in mind that she hates putting herself and her creatively on the line and to do all of the things she did she'd kinda have to do that. Maybe she was just making her coin but it seems like the Troy situation except this time she is/was on a high.